Is it even possible to get fat eating 5,000kcal a day if you're an endurance athlete who also lifts?

Is it even possible to get fat eating 5,000kcal a day if you're an endurance athlete who also lifts?

I know you CICO fags will say that it's obviously possible, but the few people I've seen who train and eat this way (not giving a fuck about calories) don't seem to gain any weight. They're just bouncing off the walls with energy all the time.

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If she is that fit putting down that many kcals then her farts must be insane.

hopefully she's getting excess protein too
imagine the aroma

I forgot. No one on this board actually does cardio lol

>Is it even possible to get fat eating 5,000kcal a day if you're an endurance athlete who also lifts?
Depends on the individual and the scope of their exercise routine. If you're older, have a shit natural metabolism, small build and you exercise only the bare minimum to be considered an "endurance athlete" then yeah you can get fat on 5,000 calories. On the other end of the spectrum if you're a big guy and you're an elite athlete who's working hard enough to burn those calories off, then you won't get fat. It's simply math.
>I know you CICO fags will say that it's obviously possible,
Because that's reality, thermodynamics is real user.

Obviously it's theoretically possible on paper. It just doesn't feel intuitive, though.

I want to see an example of a real endurance athlete who both lifts and does Ironman triathlons get fat because they couldn't properly count calories.

Obviously bodybuilders who have no cardio base need to meticulously count calories to get the leanness they want, but I'm curious to know if the body fundamentally processes calories differently once you're at that elite level of fitness. It just doesn't seem to be possible.

>youtube.com/watch?v=zPPcMUhg2fs Why are they always such creeps?

>I want to see an example of a real endurance athlete who both lifts and does Ironman triathlons get fat because they couldn't properly count calories.
You're probably not going to see an example like this because endurance athletes who over-eat and get fat are almost definitely going to stop running marathons, which would make them no longer endurance athletes and thus not valid examples.

It's a sort of begging the question/ no true scotsman issue. Can an elite athlete overeat and get fat? Obviously yes. They'll probably stop running marathons and shit by the time they get chubby though at which point lack of exercise makes them invalid examples for your scenario, so you're probably never going to see the full transition which would need to include a moderately fat guy still doing marathons.

It's still CICO because they are burning off a shit ton of calories so can afford to eat more calories each day. The reason they don't gain weight is because they still burn more than they consume.

>but the few people I've seen who train and eat this way (not giving a fuck about calories) don't seem to gain any weight
you are a fucking moron if you actually believe they eat like this every day when the camera is off

Nothing leads me to believe that she's lying. She's fit enough to run marathons without much difficulty and she's currently training for an Ironman triathlon. She also regularly lifts.

I'm not suggesting that the laws of physics don't apply to her, but it seems intuitive that a person who is THAT active every single day (endurance athletes) is going to handle calories differently from an individual who does no real cardio at all (bodybuilders). At the same time, I don't think she's burning enough calories every day to directly negate the peanut butter consumption.

It's just weird. She's almost 30 yet moves around like a teenager. Clearly something is going on besides "hurr durr genetics or eating disorder."

You're reading way too much into YouTube clickbait, dude.

I understand what you're saying. Nutrition and exercise science are a fucking joke, though, and I'm curious to know whether people like this are onto something without even realizing it.

Artificially restricting caloric intake based on what other inactive people are doing seems to be shortsighted. What if we're hindering our own metabolism by restriction calories the way we do?

>Is it even possible to get fat eating 5,000kcal a day if you're an endurance athlete who also lifts?
do you even fucking know anything about endurance athletes?

the top level ones have pretty much everything calculated from macros to STRESS MANAGEMENT, literal actual STRESS management intended to lower their stress as to not fuck with their muscle functions and gains and whatnot, their equipment, training hours/difficulty/duration/rest time, training ENVIRONMENT is on a professional level that you'll pretty much never compare to

I lost 9kg (~20lbs) eating 5000-5500kcal/day, whilst training for a triathlon and lifting weights. I was 6’1 184.5 in this before. I lost a lot of muscle but just wanted to be lighter and will regain the size over summer. Forgive the angle frauding.
>6’1 185 (83.7kg) to 74kg 163lbs

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>transition
YWNBAW

That's not really answering the question, though.

>the top level ones
The people who are at the top of any sport are going to optimize everthing to a ridiculous level.

I want to see studies on people who do BOTH lifting and endurance athlete levels of cardio. It's easy to smugly cite CICO but I'm curious to know if metabolism fundamentally changes past a certain threshold of activity.

Were you actually counting or did you just eat whatever, simply not giving a fuck?

>6’1
>184.5 -> 163lbs
>pplpplx -> ULxULxx -> full body 3x a week
>4x swims, 3x cycling, 2x running, 1xbike+run

Was strictly counting everything except carrot sticks and lettuce

>I know you CICO fags
Imagine claiming the laws of thermodynamics don't apply. Read a book, go back to school, kys, your choice, imbecile.

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Just out of curiosity what were you eating? I'm guessing that based on the weight loss it was a struggle to maintain that caloric intake every day.

Neck yourself, faggot. I doubt you even do cardio.

I used to walk 18.5 miles 3 times a week and 6 miles the other 4 days (around 80 miles per week) I was pretty much eating every two hour and never really felt bloated/too full aside from when I was doing working out my abs

additionally I was losing weight while doing this