/fraud/ - Luger edition

The shoulder problem began at about week 4 and I only started adex at week 6
So potentially ai could explain the hamstring strain but not the shoulder

HCG is a meme breh, just extra pinning for no real gains. Can also effect estro levels, so its not only just extra pinning but also extra complications with e2 control. Not with it breh

Whats the consensus on test + anavar and hairless. Heard even though anavar is more hairsafe it crushes shgb which will cause more dht to end up in your scalp.

For reference was considering 250 mg test e per week + 20 mg anavar daily

>extra pinning
>not with it breh
tell me you've never injected test without telling me you've never injected test

so the test E I order has ethyl oleate in it, is this shit going to fuck me up with inflammation or fuck my injection sites

Lmfao my wife takes 20mg var every day. 50mg is a starting dose

Kinda individual, I personally love EO

>your balls will shrink faster the more you jerk off
Really? I always thought it would be the other way around, because you are giving them something to do when you jerk off, you make them produce more cum, so they should keep working longer.

Your balls swell when filled with cum

Is there a difference between roids that mostly give strength gains and hypertrophy gains?

I'm a professional armwrestler and my strength has pleateaud hard, what roids should I take to increase my strength in the bicep, forearm muscles, etc.

I'm having gyno surgery (type 3 gyno) in a few hours.

Will I be able to lift any bags for food on the way home?

The clinic is in a not so savoury part of the city so I was thinking of carrying a 3lbs heavy maglite to bash someone in, but it seems that it's kind of pointless since I won't be in any capacity to fight anyone on the way home or even if I do ill be bleeding like a motherfucker reopening that wound.

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Anyone thats taken accutane on ur own? Did u get bloodwork done? Gonna go lowdose for 5 months

Strength in the long term doesn't need any special compound. Train and eat and take whatever. It does matter at competition time though... All the toxic shit gives great short term strength.

low dosed for years. bloods were fine. still low dosing for preventative measures. it’s person dependent though. fucks up a few rare people for whatever reason

How do i become a vampire

What's it like being a transvestite taking transition hormones just so you can take a shortcut to success? Is being a tranny really worth it?

Faggots

Is there any reason to stop taking orals if you don't get any side effects? I've been on superdrol for 8 weeks and I feel great.

Hepatoxicity

I have a pack of superdrol in my drawer that I've held off on taking because every single experience I've come across with it is negative. People saying they can't even make it past week 3 and they'll never take it again.

I had all the reported sides early on but I realized that it was all low E2 symptoms. Im also on mast so I just lowered the dose of that and added milk thistle no problems since.

It can be prescribed and not really. It boosts estrogen too so you need more AI on HCG. I have a prescription and don't even use it so I can keep AI dose down. I don't plan on coming off any time soon.

what's your superdrol dose? I was thinking of just taking 10mg

Any real benefit to manipulating my Prescribed T4 dose to increase/decrease metabolism? Ive read it can be catabolic at higher doses. Cruising on ~200test,

Shit is just sitting around, have soooo much extra

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Just 10mg split between morning and evening, works great

I took 10mg for 4 weeks and felt fine. I was taking tudca and NAC. It made my
strength shoot up very fast and my muscle were very full. Would recommend

Do all age the shit out of your face or is it just the harsher stuff like tren? Like why do some guys in their early 20's look mid 30's but like steve cook looks younger than his age, genetics or is it mostly compounds?

Anyone have experience with DHB?
I often see it compared to a stronger version of primo.
How much should I take to get a similar effect to a medium dose of primo?
Thinking of stacking it with test and deca. Thoughts?

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I'll give 10mg a shot. Thanks bros.

I started taking adex a week ago because my estrogen was affecting my sex drive. I’ve broken out quite badly, acne all over my upper arms. I used to get acne on my upper back/shoulders before I got on test. Now I’m doing 500 test per week and .5mg every 3 days adex and terrible arm acne.

Anything I can do to help it? Seems it’s from the adex.

I would check bloods. You might not need .5 every 3 days to keep e2 in decent range.

Test does it. Reduces collagen synthesis=saggy wrinkles.
No, deca is not a solution. EQ might be. If you look at the famous bodybuilders that dont look like theyre 110 theyve had a fk load of botox.

>>lee priest
>>brad rowe

made my heart go crazy and really bad stim dick

ECA stack is terrible bros. As soon as it wears off I feel like a fucking zombie. How do you deal with this?

It’s not like I’m getting pussy so stim dick is fine by me

How were the results

are you doing 24mg E 200mg C three times a day? That's what I'm doing right now and I feel fine, though it's only been a week. I also throw in L-theanine to smooth it out and reduce the anxiety.

24mg Em, 200mg C, 300mg A once a day... that's probably where I'm fucking up.

But if the crash is this bad at 1x a day if I do 3x a day I will eventually crash tho right? Like when the cycle ends?

>Em
*E

only did it a few times but stopped after how weird it made me feel. i take adderal everyday so even coffee makes my heart go wild. plus i had a cold sweat anxiety kinda feeling.
i think bronkaid and coffee would do just as good a job idk depends how it works w ya

are you confused? yk11 is not a stim, it's certainly not replaceable by "bronkaid and coffee," it's not an appetite suppressant or fat loss aid, it's a myostatin inhibitor. you got some wack shit.

you thinking of Yohimbine by any chance?

As far I know the standard is to run it 3x split throughout the day. I take my doses at 8am, 12pm, and 4pm. I also don't take aspirin with it, but that supposedly prolongs the noradrenaline effects.
I'm not sure if you're early into it, but I felt pretty wired the first couple days. That effect has mostly gone away but I still get the energy + appetite suppression.
Assuming you're cutting, maybe you're reducing calories too sharply? It's also really important to stay hydrated on this stuff. Low food intake and dehydration make you feel like shit in general, but especially when paired with stims.
I recommend theanine with the stack as well. I find that it helps with jittery/wired feeling that people experience. This might help lessen the feeling of the 'comedown' when the drugs wear off.

Also I'm pretty sure you don't need to take a full aspirin dose with it. Try baby aspirin once with your first dose. It's something like 72mg or around there.

Thanks, that makes sense.

>aspirin
Hmm if it prolongs the effects maybe I'll only take it with the morning dose

>reducing calories too sharply
Yeah I skipped breakfast and had lunch at 3pm due to the appetite suppression and wired feeling. I'll try and make it a normal cut rather than just fasting.

>theanine
Solid idea

yeah baby aspirin makes more sense with the full aspirin the effects lasted from 8am til 3pm on one dose

i'm playing warzone while i read.
i'm also fuckin retarded
yes it was yohimbine, my bad lol
never done yk, only sarm i've done is lgd

Speaking of ECA...

If I'm cruising on 175mg test, taking EC, eating 150g + protein per day and still lifting frequently and heavy, will I lose much muscle if I'm in a drastic calorie deficit? I'm talking like 1000-1500 calories.
Im aware I'll lose some, but wouldn't the factors above greatly reduce lean tissue loss?

Yes I do intend to after 2 weeks of adex. That would be in 4 days

Don't let this thread die like the last one...

Best compounds for athletic performance, strength and conditioning?? Besides test

Why the fuck did I stay natty so long? Seriously, I hated on roiders for "cheating" and now I realize how much more I can work harder on gear. Fuck ..

look at what prime athletes are taking and what compounds are on the banned list

EPO, Cialis (oddly enough Victor Conte said all of his guys were on this stuff)

really depends on what exactly youre trying to achieve

Dumb as shit, even SF Bois love tren. Cialis is good pumps and lowering BP. But EPO? Fucking normal ass athletes aren't using that, anabolics, Cardarine, shit that actually works and is cheap.

I have Cardarine but I'm afraid to take it because of the cancer studies

Based. You only live once. Just be careful.

Do you take roids? Because if you're scared of Cardarine, I doubt you fucking pin.

As for the cancer, I have as much of a chance getting cancer from diet soda as fucking Cardarine, the study was shit.

is taking gear on a 3 day program a waste?

Anadrol, tren are the big ones, but anadrol supposedly isn’t supposed to be good for arm wrestling because it messes with your endurance or something

SF bois?

Taking nolvadex rn. Will drinking alcohol one night kill me? Or will I be fine?

I love the "cheating" cope. What exactly are we cheating at? The natty fags that spew this can never answer this question without insane mental gymnastics or further coping. Really, it all comes down to to why people choose to lift in the first place. For some its health. For most, however, it's an ego thing, regardless of whether they want to admit it or not. If you want to look at life as a social competition, then yes, maybe roiders are cheating. People do all sorts of things to get ahead socially, most of these things coming with various risks and uncertainties. Roiding to attain a sought after physique is no different. Your decision to engage in these things comes down to your individual priorities and risk tolerance.
'Respect' is another thing that's mentioned in these discussions. People don't respect roiders, just like they dont respect cheaters. I can understand this perspective, but the fact of the matter is that in this game of life, were not all dealt the same cards. At the end of the day, I would rather cheat and take things into my own hands than be a bitter, complacent loser who lashes out to cope with their own inferiority. You can have your 'respect'; I'd much rather take a risk and get the things I want.

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Special forces, I don't personally know many athletes so that's best answer I can give from the people I know.
I wouldn't drink anyways, orals are soo much more fun than drinking. You should be fine tho.

TLDR:

It just comes them coping about looking like shit. Compare the cbt Bois who admit to using roids and look good and the others who say their natural but obviously roiding. The difference in replies is alot.

Also look at who they post for fitness inspiration, 90% dudes who've used. It's hilarious the mental gymnastics these people use.

I normally don’t drink. Just every once in awhile on special occasions

Could you take a shit load of glycine and collagen to offset it, or do I just have to accept I'll age 20 years.

yeah athletes don't take EPO because its easily tested for and not as widely available as it used to be

you're full of shit if you think many SF guys are doing Tren, most special forces requires intense cardio along with adequate strength

Has anyone gotten their test from a men's health clinic? What was your experience? Were they happy to prescribe you something to get you to the upper limit? Does insurance cover this kind of thing? if not how much should i expect to pay?

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just buy turkesterone goy

That's cus you're a moron who reads what they do on Wikipedia, they sit around base training. Have you even been stationed with SF before?

why isn’t there a roid called “anabol” yet? Seems like the most obvious name, yet noone’s done it

why would you want a single anabol when you can have a di-anabol?

Finished gyno surgery.

210g +248g of glands. I am afraid of ever touching anything below mid-level test and anavar.

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What are they running??

I'm the hyperchondriac user who thought he has liver failure. Thankfully it was just salmonella. I got put on a drip with anti nausea stuff and given a course of antibiotics. Still don't feel 100%.

I have missed the day I was meant to pin. I normally do twice a week. Should I double the next dosage or just skip that one? I also have barely ate and haven't worked out in a few days. Stopped my tbol when I first felt sick. Should I restart that back up again or just skip it for now? I was about 10 days into my cycle, and will have basically had a forced 5 day break.

Any advice on how to proceed?

give me the qrd with injections, not reading all that reddit garbage
so i inject into my glutes
a) what type of syringe do i need
b) do i need to mix test e with something or can i just inject it as it is in the bottle
thanks lads

a) I recommend using an 18G needle for drawing and pinning, since you can do both with the same needle and also very fast, saving a lot of precious time
b) you should mix it with some sort of alcohol. Personally I prefer vodka, since it has the least amount of calories, but others prefer gin or whiskey. Just don’t use spiced rum, that shit burns really nasty.

thanks lad

I'm not from round these parts and I gotta say, this read like a troll post. Yet I have no reason not to believe you. Why use the alcohol?

is worth to jump on juice if i work at fucking amazon?

Anyone here had experience with swelling after injection?

Yesterday I injected 1ml of Test C in my tricep for the first time. After a few hours the site had swollen. This morning I can see redness around the site which is warm to the touch.

Thinking about getting to a doctor but wasn't sure if I'm just worrying or if this is normal.

Yes. You will be fine. After a few pins it only happens every now and then.

Please answer me Bros. This might be an emergency

Is it normal for your strength to go down when you're on a cruise? I don't think my muscles got smaller but I did some bicep curls today just after getting on a cruise and my were weaker. I I look natural and my strength is natty tier as well
I wonder if my gear is under dosed.

Yes if you're worried about losing gains from manual labour working at Amazon isn't that hard just eat a lot
Obviously it's not ideal
The ideal job would be something you can do sitting on your ass all day

>I look natural and my strength is natty tier
I assume you ment this "i look like i don't even lift"

But anywhey, don't judge your strength based on shit like bicep curls. You are using your arms all the time and it's a shitty way to measure your strength. If your strength will go down on absolutely every lift then it means you got weaker.
Also, don't think you've lost strength because one day it didn't go right. Everyone has good days and bad days. You can't improve every workout into infinity.

>I wonder if my gear is under dosed.
You didn't even bother do get your test levels checked during blast?

Yes, it will improve your perfomance. I hope you don't mean cycling but blasting and cruising.

>The ideal job would be something you can do sitting on your ass all day
Wrong. The best job is something where you're on your feet to get some sort of activity without heavy lifting.

Please, for the love of god, read the "reddit garbage" before you seriously hurt yourself, you troglodyte.

At least this guy is on the right track.

Any experiences on increased hemocrit? What were you on, if so. On 450mg + Var I don't tend to get negative blood levels or anything like that.

Boys, need a good cycle for epic cardio and calisthenic gains. Want to be able to do as many push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, and run a 2-mile in less than 12 mins. Pretty much meet the standards of a Navy Seal.

200 mg test per week

Insulin syringe, back loading a second from the first is ideal but desu insulin users don't bother, so using the same needle to draw and inject is fine (not more than once though)

Just pick a meaty spot on your ass and stick it in.

Not the user you're answering but, If you pin with an insulin syringe but the needle doesn't penetrate the muscle, how does tis affect absorption? If at all?

SubQ injection is fine, so if your ass is fat and you miss the muscle nothing bad happens.

Fucking serious, user? I've been meticulous for YEARS always making sure I get decently long pins to reach my glute. Not much fat in that area anyways but I never even considered insulin pins. Looks like I'm changing.

>Looks like I'm changing
Enjoy your pip and inflammed ass you dumb fuck. Subq shots are fine with tiny amounts