I recently read through the manifesto and, I gotta say, largely agree with it. What are the common counter-points?
So where was he wrong?
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>common counterpoints
Normies love smartphones and sharing every minute detail of their lives from them.
I think his analysis of the situation is pretty accurate, but his purported solutions are very utopian and impractical. He's a guy who saw the problem, but didn't manage to see any solutions to it. Probably what made him sperg out in the end, understandably.
nothing fundamental, they just can't handle the consequences of taking the tedpill, especially regarding the future of human freedom within big brother society
I e.g think his power process concept is somewhat limited
no he was an MKUltra spook who got his brain fried at Harvard, he at one point wanted to be a tranny
Possible, no idea about that. I just read his manifesto once way back, no idea about the guy himself other than that he was sending mail bombs or something, which is pretty retarded kek.
he bombed random people and was a tranny
>random
>he doesn't know
mostly wrong the problem isn't technology nor innovation but ideas that are driving them and the direction they are headed
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not possible, documented
He can see the problem, but regression will ultimately fail long term, humanity is apathetic and comfortable right now but when we are actually in the shit, we always innovate and push forward, our only actual hope is to accelerate technology fast enough that we can segregate into our own private ideological groups, or collectively remove our hedonistic tendencies otherwise we are all fucked.
>some guy says
Yeah ok, possible, I have no idea.
He is dying BTW
I have a friend who is one of the ''official'' translator of Ted K in french: bone cancer if I remember well
he was a fabrication
fictitious person
never existed
ffs, quit falling for psyops
addressing this child's thinking is the entire point of his work
there's a fatalistic element in technology that is hard to avoid on the long run, put it bluntly, if technology unlocks a possibility, someone eventually is going to use it to its own advantage for a myriad of reasons, if anything, man's short historical memory, attention span and long term horizons, and this goes back all the way to the neolithic revolution really, those few huter gatherers in the levant that eventually unlocked the sedentarism recipe couldn't maybe even remotely think that it would mathematically lead to the rise of mass slaver societies and the beginning of human domestication
likewise the industrial revolution is such another stepping stone in this path humanity took 10k years ago
>What are the common counter-points?
Ted's in prison, feds in McDonald's
take your meds
>I gotta say, largely agree with it.
Give an example you 1-post faggot.
>So where was he wrong?
He correctly identified the symptoms but failed to identify the cause or the (final) solution.
I don't know if there are solutions. He has a sequel to industrial society, written a few years ago, that essentially outlines why there is no solution to the problems of modernity but to tear down the technological system.
Some of his targets made sense based on his beliefs, a few seemed more like he was just lashing out at academics in general.
The counterpoint is simple. He was a kissless virgin, literally. Listen to his interview and listen to how much of a pathetic weasel he sounds like.
And then understand this is what the world looks like to a pathetic weasel who can't find anyone to love him.
The world is brutal but it exists in this way for a good reason, this is the least shitty way we've figured out how to do this. And you know what's even worse that this? Getting bombed by some incel because he had no sense of humor and couldn't relate to anyone. In his old pictures he's not even bad looking. Tall, genious. Literally all he had to do is take some dance classes and he'd have flopped into a girlfriend.
>I don't know if there are solutions.
>there is no solution to the problems of modernity but to tear down the technological system.
That is a solution.
>neu-pol
I read this thing and ofc now agree with it.
Someone spoonfeed me some more shit I can either like the taste of or not.
Anything but think for myself.
>Literally all he had to do is take some dance classes and he'd have flopped into a girlfriend.
Thank God he didn't
The worst thing as far as I'm concerned is the tracking. Throughout the entirety of human history you've had the ability to just relocate if you fuck up. Today, everything will follow you forever no matter what you do. This is an immense and important freedom we've lost in the course of just half a century or something and I think it's one of the things that are driving people insane and terrified to act in any beneficial capacity now. It's inhuman.
I do agree with that, but how do you tear it down? It's a very resilient system. Sending some mail bombs to some random big tech fags accomplishes 0% of that goal. I mean, I could propose the solution "just make everything good," ok fine... but how the fuck does one get there? That's why I'm calling it utopian.
That's a lot of ad hom and speculation.
This is your brain on coomerism. Sad.
>Ignore the clown world and dance with chicks
He saw things for what they are. Hope you get divorce raped as the government your parents built allows it.
>I do agree with that, but how do you tear it down?
Read Siege.
My post is worded poorly. His sequel is an extended argument to answer the question "but why can't we reform it?" The poster I was responding to says that Ted is just sperging in industrial society, and says that tearing it all down isn't a solution, because this is Ted's only solution in industrial society. Ted isn't just sperging, it's just that his reasoning for not offering reform is much more complicated than industrial society and wouldn't have been good for a mass-audience manifesto, hence why it might seem that IS is unproductive sperg rage.
I think you agree with the bombing part, Muhammad.
I'll admit I haven't read it, but going by the discussions I've had with people who talk about siege, I'm pretty sure it provides no solutions as well.
>but how do you tear it down?
He wrote a book called something like The Anti Tech Revolution, How and Why. Haven't read it yet so I have no idea how coherent it is.
>accomplishes 0%
He admits the bombs were a mistake
yup, Ted's points about human dignity and freedom fly above the head of the superficial reader while as far as I'm concerned they are the most important part
saving the biosphere means little to me if humanity is enslaved into pill fed battery chickens