I'm pulling this thread up again >hydroelectric power requires water to work >solar is only good small scale situations >windmill is only good for small scale >fossil fuels fuck the environment >renewables cannot provide 24/7 electricity
Most fears of nuclear power are irrational. >chernobyl was a result of a poorly designed experiment >fukushima was a result of a tsunami
Nuclear power is our only way out of an energy crisis that will impede us all.
Shill/shitpost thread or not. this is objectively the only way forward
Jason James
The whole "DUDE THE WASTE NEEDS TO BE COOLED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND WILL MELT DOWN" argument is so bullshit it's not even funny. TPTB don't even give a fuck about the current ticking environmental time bombs that are set to blow in 1 generation tops if we're lucky, because they'll be dead or in plutocrat bunkers by then. Why would they care about some nuclear fuel rods irradiating stuff in a TEOTWAWKI scenario where they're wiped out and incapacitated for good? With these people's mentality, there is no world or existence without them.
(((They))) just suppress technology and practices that makes resources, necessities, and commodities plentiful and easy to access, so their goyim serf cattle will be ready to kill each other over a can of beans instead of banding together and throwing the offenders into the gas chamber. You see this with desalination tech that Israel hogs, high density battery tech the DoD buys up and classifies, the natural/noble/petrol gas and fertilizer shutoffs from Russia, the failed pipeline constructions, etc.
It's purely nefarious sabotage, and the perpetrators should be treated like they were before the ADL, ALCU, and freemason police put a stop to true justice.
There's no man made climate change you dumb fuck and the 'energy crisis's is caused by corrupt politicians pushing ESG since the 90s. But I agree in parts, nuclear power can be a good way to produce a steady supply that does not suffer too much from commodities price hikes. In energy production, flexibility is always the best option
Brayden Powell
>hydroelectric power requires water to work If only we didn't live on a planet that is over 80% water.
Andrew James
it's incredibly expensive and time consuming to build nuclear power plants
they are subject to the same supply chain problems as everything else but worse because the parts needed are so specialised
they need a supply of uranium fuel which the Uk does not have itself.
very few new nuclear power stations if any will be built in the shrinking future economy of the UK
Owen Perry
Why is it impossible to even have an honest discussion about nuclear power? These threads never go anywhere, and you can’t even look up discussions of nuclear power online. The only results you get are “why is nuclear power bad”
James Parker
Always bump nuke threads and embrace SMR and other next gen techs.
If California were not faggots they could use nuclear power for desalination
I suspect the public sector is close to what the darpa bois cooked up for the navy but who knows.
Gavin Ross
>If California were not faggots they could use nuclear power for desalination
if they could build the plants they could. as i said its unlikely many if any new plants will be built since economic collapse is already underway.
Jonathan Jenkins
Do you know of any nuclear advocacy groups that do protests/marches? I'd love to argue on the street with dumb greenpeace cunts
Christopher Phillips
>>hydroelectric power requires water to work >If only we didn't live on a planet that is over 80% water.
it requires water and suitable sites for dams.
building the dams and power stations takes huge amounts of fossil fuels and other resources.
Hunter Smith
>Do you know of any nuclear advocacy groups that do protests/marches? I'd love to argue on the street with dumb greenpeace cunts
its all academic because we won't be building any.
Juan Ramirez
Hinkley Point C is under construction
We need more though
Josiah Adams
>ticking environmental time bombs that are set to blow in 1 generation tops Fluoride and micro plastics and other contaminants have already turned almost everyone into braindead retard womanly men. It already happened.
Jacob Bell
anyone that argues against nuclear power is either retarded or doesn't care about objective reality
Landon Perry
>Hinkley Point C is under construction >We need more though
it will most likely never be completed and will never be operational.
Bentley Edwards
Nuclear reactors can poison entire countries for centuries if something goes wrong, and human error is always possible in a human project. Probability states that something going wrong will inevitably happen even without tsunami, earthquake and so on.
Aaron James
pretty sure almost every nuclear power plant makes themselves next to water, so it may not be absolutely required but its the most practical place but unlike dams they can go next to any large body of water and they dont screw fish trying to go spawn
Dylan Powell
Maybe the next big nuclear incident is next year or maybe it's 100 years from now, but it is inevitable, in terms of probability. As long as it can happen, it eventually will happen, and when it happens your country might become an uninhabitable radioactive garbage dump.
Leo Anderson
>nuclear still reqires water too Why is it safe for a sub or aircraft carrier to be nuclear power but not a city
Camden Evans
>Probability states that something going wrong will inevitably happen Modern nuclear plants have a meltown probability so infinitesimally small that it is practically zero
Isaac Young
I find it hard to believe these people exist anymore. I first heard of nuscale on a fucking Nova documentary years ago. CNN also had a documentary with former tree huggers who turned pro nuclear.
Chase Fisher
The fact it is above zero means that on a long enough time the event is inevitable
Lucas Taylor
Fukushima has been livable since 2019, meanwhile the entire provinces of Ontario and British Columbia have been uninhabitable garbage dumps for decades and they didn't need a single nuclear meltdown to get there
Isaac Gonzalez
>he thinks nuclear reactors are operational infinitely >he thinks they don't get updated and maintained fucking retard you don't even know what you're talking about
Luke Williams
>long enough time And given a long enough time with a typewriter, monkeys will type out the entire works of shakespeare
Asher Scott
>Fukushima has been livable since 2019 Yes, it could have been much worse, but even if all future incidents are at that level or milder (which is virtually impossible in terms of probability, assuming we continue with nuclear power for the next few centuries) the radioactive poisoning of the ocean would continue getting worse. Chernobyl, three mile island, and most of all the nuclear warheads have already irradiated our entire planet, changing the air forever. Look up "low background steel".
Gabriel Gutierrez
I know this is stupid but i am a genuinely uninformed person. What the hell is everyone around the world talking about when they are talking about a energy crisis or any other form of crisis? I know that the environment is near dead and we need to save the world from rampant human greed and stupidity. But what the hell else is going on that has so many people afraid of what is to come? Are there going to be robot uprisings, Godzilla stomping our city's flat, or even a solar flare or other such cosmic fuck up to kick the shit out of us?
Benjamin Peterson
It doesn't have to be left without maintenance or operate infinitly. No one said either of those things you drooling idiot. Human error is always possible in a human project. Probability states that something going wrong in some way will inevitably happen. That could mean disaster worse than Chernobyl.
Alexander Long
>Probability states that something going wrong in some way will inevitably happen dumb nigger doesn't even know that probability doesn't apply to n=1
Juan Garcia
>Probability states that something going wrong in some way will inevitably happen Yellowstone will also errupt and wipe out North America. Probability states it. Also Russia will accidentally detonate their nukes, because of human error. Probability states it.
God I hate teenage pseuds like you
Landon Rogers
Solar is not even that good on smaller scale until we figure out the battery situation that’s not complete ass.
Landon Wood
Whatever fag. Like I said, the nuclear warheads detonated and nuclear reactor incidents that already happened in the short time humans have used nuclear technology have already completely changed the planet with radiation. Please do look low background steel and educate yourself.
Xavier Mitchell
> shrinking future economy of the UK Worship an elite of africans, your country becomes Congo.
Levi Evans
Yes faggot Yellowstone will erupt one day, but it won't wipe out North America. And yes the fact that nukes exist means by the law of probability, inevitably they will be detonated by someone or something at some time, unless they are dismantled first. Calling me a teenage pseud is not an argument.
>bot calling people ahmed, with an ISIS flag LOL LMAO I'm thinkin' Israeli
Levi Cruz
Too much populism going around the world and they lost control. Wait until more next gen power projects start being feasible, they will shill against it so hadd. No one wants to fix any of the issues we have because they will lead to stability and they can't let us have time to think. The only reason they can oppress us is because we are bombarded by one happening after another we can't fully digest anything that's happening. It's tiresome
Easton Hughes
>pretending to already know about low background steel >trying to feel superior on an anonymous imageboard
Tyler Robinson
blowing up nukes is not the same as nuclear reactors and even nuclear meltdowns you stupid motherfucker don't tell me you think all these things do a BIG BOOM
Jacob Mitchell
They’ll never do it, it’s not profitable
Asher Miller
did I say that it was the same? did I say a thing about a big boom? I'm talking about radiation poisoning you dumb shit sucking worm
Jaxon Ward
We'll never solve the climate crisis if we use solar and wind power. They are dependant on fossils fuels to back them up when not running at 100% which is basically always. This is why oil companies are the biggest solar and wind pushers out there.
Carter Howard
there are already like 8 nuclear subs glowing at the bottom of the sea, radioactive whale meat has been given to jap school kids. Now our shithead trannies at the pentagon want more nuclear powered naval vessels cause carbon n shit. The fucking goal of naval warfare is to sink ships. We are fucked.
John Anderson
>Worship an elite of africans, your country becomes Congo.
The UK will revert back to the way it was in about 1700 but worse becasue we have used up all the resources and depleted the soil.
Gabriel Lee
Masonic Simpson's TV show stopped millenials and older into hating it. Chernobyl was probably also a judeo masonic op to make it look bad. They have new designes that fail safe in case of over heating a d just separate the cores and flood them with coolant as soon as it happens.
Blake Cook
>trying to feel superior on an anonymous imageboard highly ironic
you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. nuclear reactors have safety measures to prevent leakage into the air of radioactive particulates. the reason shit like cobalt60 got into the air is because of nukes going off and spewing shit around for miles. if a nuclear reactors goes to shit they flood it to cool it and seal the thing, since they're built underground anyway the only reason fukushima was such a disaster was because of a literal earthquake+tsunami combo
Jackson Walker
>We'll never solve the climate crisis if we use solar and wind power.
the climate crisis can't be solved.
turning fossil fuels into CO2 is entropy in action.
you can't reverse entropy.
Robert Myers
the new generation uses liquid metal for cooling but havent been built yet. The plans are ready to go and they generate almost no radioactive waste.
Isaac Thompson
>stopped millenials and older into hating it Stopped from liking it, and made them hate it.
Ethan Harris
>Nuclear reactors can poison entire countries for centuries if something goes wrong There's an entire chain of bad decisions that need to happen in order for a nuclear reactor to start melting, let alone melt so bad that they poison the entire country. Remember, the only 2 nuclear disasters to ever happen occurred because of negligence and very poor planning (like, idk, building a reactor on an island, in the most tsunami prone area in the world). Also there's nuclear reactors that are meltdown proof, so there's that. >it is inevitable, in terms of probability lmao There's a >0 chance for everything to happen. The "muh there's still a chance so it's too dangerous to do it" bullshit is just FUD. >The fact it is above zero means that on a long enough time the event is inevitable Yea, so is the chance that you might get shot by a one legged midget wearing a top hat, so what's your point?
Justin Morris
>ironic What's ironic is you telling me I don't know the subject matter, and then sticking your head in the sand about the need for low background steel directly resulting from nuclear warhead and nuclear reactor incidents.
>nuclear reactors have safety measures to prevent leakage into the air of radioactive particulates Yes, until something goes wrong.
>literal earthquake+tsunami combo All tsunami result from earthquakes. kys
Julian Young
>Chernobyl was probably also a judeo masonic op to make it look bad. no user, commies are just retarded and incompetent. france and germany had nuclear power for years and it worked just fine until recently the "environmentalists" put a stop to it and made them more reliant on coal, gas and oil. and since they stopped operations on those themselves since switching to nuclear, they had to import it all from russia! isn't that just a funny coincidence!
Charles Campbell
Nuclear requires water you absolute fucking retard.
Lemme explain how this works in a way that any retard can understand: Hot rock heats up water, makes steam, steam go through pipe, turn turbine, which generates electricity.
Josiah Reyes
>There's an entire chain of bad decisions that need to happen in order for a nuclear reactor to start melting And yet, major meltdown happened once already and the technology existed less than 100 years
>only 2 nuclear disasters to ever happen are you forgetting fukushima, or three mile island?
Gavin Richardson
>Probability states that something going wrong in some way will inevitably happen. The chance of it happening out of the blue is so small that the length of time needed for it to happen exceeds the length of time that the power plant will exist, by a great margin.
Ryder Myers
Nuclear power main problem, at least in my country, is that we don't have enough people to justify its use. But we have one really close to our border in Almaraz.
Bentley Jones
This probability argument is such an inane, insincere argument it’s impossible to come from anyone other than a teenage pseud. Wow, if you integrate over all of time, the probability of any possible event occurring goes to one! No fucking shit, this is not a reasonable argument. There are countless dangerous events and scenarios we undertake every day that are vastly more probable
Evan Green
>What's ironic is you telling me I don't know the subject matter, and then sticking your head in the sand about the need for low background steel directly resulting from nuclear warhead and nuclear reactor incidents. not modern incidents. the safety protocols prevent that. you're being disingenuous
>Yes, until something goes wrong. not an argument, literally everything ever can go wrong, guess we should just sit still forever and ever
>All tsunami result from earthquakes. kys not every earthquake that causes tsunamis has a direct impact on land you fucking moron. this one did, which is why it's important to point out. they got hit by the quake first and then the tsunami
Kayden Foster
I really wish I had your confidence in the administration of nuclear power plants
Lucas Sanders
It requires water at some elevated level. Most of those 80% are oceans.
Asher Hall
nuclear probably uses the most water between waste storage, reactor cooling, and power generation.
It’s still the best source of energy. We should have gone full nuclear in the 80s but demoncrats had to fear monger that too.
Levi Thomas
they seemed to be doing just fine in germany and france for years