I want to discuss a philosophical idea...

I want to discuss a philosophical idea. A person said that you don't take other people's opinion of you to heart if you know it has nothing to do with you, and that it never does have anything to do with you. He said the only reason you would feel affected by it is if you agree that it does have something to do with you. Is he right? I've been thinking about this idea in relation to the Gospel and it seems to fit. Also I don't think it's limited to actual opinions other people have. Really it's more about your own mind, meaning the other person might not even have an opinion of you at all or know that you exist. For example if you are jealous of someone, the exact same concept applies.

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>He said the only reason you would feel affected by it is if you agree that it does have something to do with you. Is he right?
i dont think so. it is possible to have instrusive thoughts

This psychological device is called the arena
it was freud jung or nietzche cant remember

What do you mean?
Any more info? I googled but didn't find anything.

>it never does have anything to do with you.
Why doesn't it ever have anything to do with you? Sure, if something you want relies on someone's opinion of you, you'd care. And if something is at least partly true, you also care.

... you're not clear enough, there, Swedebro.

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It's just an example, it doesn't have to be a true thing. It's more about your mind being affected by other people's opinion of you, even if they don't know you. I'm not saying it's right, just that it's a concept.

>Why doesn't it ever have anything to do with you?
Yeah that's what I'm struggling with. He didn't really explain it. He just said the world is like a hologram and we are really alone in our world, the other people aren't actually there, or not the actual them, just our version of them. I've been thinking about why it would never have anything to do with you and why he didn't explain it much. Maybe that aspect of this whole idea is actually not the key thing. Also, if you go out and murder some people at random and people hate you, does it have nothing to do with you? Also people's opinion of you and attitude towards you is not always just words or facial expressions etc. A judge's opinion of you can result in prison for life, or death in some places. Same applies to many other people, someone might kill you, fire you from your job etc. It seems the difference between someone pursing their lips or frowning at you and a country sending soldiers after you is just a matter of degree. Maybe it's about a faulty perception of how the world actually works, having these thoughts. I mean maybe things in your life never happen randomly, people you meet are never random, it's always God putting them in your way. Etc.

Please put down the weed, user.

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>And if something is at least partly true, you also care.
That's the thing, I don't think this is about false accusations. It can be something which is true. It's do you take it to heart when people think you are a bad person, even if it's actually true that you are? It seems like a paradox to me, a good person does not take it to heart when others think he's a bad person, even if he is, so it seems in a way others can never be right about you, which is what he said, that it never does have anything to do with you, maybe this paradox is the key to that. I think that paradox might be the meaning of "Jesus was a Jew" or "Jesus was the king of the Jews". Also the repentant thief, he was going to heaven even though he was a thief. And Jonah who was thrown into the sea but was spit up by the whale.

>if you know it has nothing to do with you
It ALWAYS has something to do with you; either directly or indirectly. You just got to know how to not give a fuck.

get the niggers out your country then well talk Sewde Cuck.

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I've been thinking about how it relates to the idea that the past and the future don't exist, only the present moment. When you're sitting alone in a room with your eyes closed, and into your mind pops the memory of an enemy, that person isn't actually there in the room, just a memory in your mind. You can't even prove the outer world exists and that it's not all your mind. But regardless of that, it's a fact that person is not there in the room at that moment, and the past events which shaped your memory are not there either. Nor is the future which you have fear about. So you have a memory. But your mind attaches emotions to it, positive or negative, like a label which is put onto the actual thing. I think Buddhism talks about how in order to go to heaven you have to be able to observe the content of your mind without putting any positive or negative label on it, it just is what it is. Christianity says works can't save you. Maybe that's about the same thing. The Gospel of Thomas has some similar things:
>Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.
>Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

>a good person does not take it to heart when others think he's a bad person
except a smart person knows that it's plausible you could be a bad person in the right context or scenario without even knowing so until someone points this out to them because they understand that their minds have blind spots in their thinking processes and actions and that they are not all-knowing. and when they are given the reason why they are being accused of this, then they can properly assess whether or not it's justified or if the other guy is a looney who is self projecting or overly sensitive. someone who never thinks of themselves as a bad person is a low iq sociopath or narcissist who thinks they can do no wrong.

I read a little. Don't see the relevance.

I think you're misunderstanding. As I said, this is not about false accusations. To not take it to heart doesn't mean you think of yourself as a good person. Rather I think it's the same as the Christian concept of repentance. I think repentance and loving your enemies might be the same thing. When someone thinks you are a bad person, not taking it to heart is not to disagree but rather to agree. It's perhaps a lower and higher self thing. The lower self can be bad, but the higher self is neither good nor bad, it's without characteristics.

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