If Russia is suspended from SWIFT does that mean Russian stocks are dead in the water including MOEX?
Would Russia Being Locked Out of Swift Mean a Lockout of OTC Stocks and MOEX?
Irrelevant. Global fiat economy about to colapse, and after that it's all going to be about RESOURCES, which Russians got plenty of - more so with Ukraine. They can literally become self-sufficient if they so desire.
The future of SWIFT has already been decided you stupid mutt.
Might lose European gas market, but SWIFT is unlikely.
No, you're mostly buying ADRs. They're shares held at depository banks outside Russia.
Russia already is self-sufficient. As the recent energy crisis in Europe has illustrated, it is the west that needs Russia and not the other way around.
All this talk of EPICALLY DESTROYING LE ROOSKIES with sanctions and a SWIFT ban is nothing but hubris. Hubris will be the death of the entire western world.
I think Russia have lot of other cards to play in that case. Like the balics, maube take a piece of Finnland. Or maybe take Moldova
Fucking Hubris
If that were so, Russia would have shut down all trade with the EU years ago. Yet they are not doing it, and are trying to LEVERAGE gas dependency instead.
Russia will have to tighten its belt. By a lot.
Furthermore, do you think China is going to participate in western economic sanctions? Of course they won't. Sanction Russia all you want, they have a strong domestic economy (less reliant upon foreign goods) and they'll still have China to trade with even if America and its little minions in Europe decide to sanction them.
Leverage for political gain and self-sufficiency are two very different things.
Sanctions have never worked against Russia. It caused some temporary pain, but ultimately strengthened Russia's economy by forcing them to rely upon domestic production rather than imports.
But this time it will TOTALLY work, right? Right guys?
who else are the eurofags gonna buy gas from, retard? OPEC? they'll spend more on shipping than they will on the gas.
Sanctions are only big deal to countries that are not self-sufficient. But no retards are able to understand that. IF a country can exist in a vacuum, then sanctions are ultimately not able to topple it
There are alternatives to SWIFT that exist and also swift is fuuucking old gay technology.
Aaaw yeah its an xrp thread now.
Right. From whar I can tell it seems like it would still operate. Hell Venezuala still has adrs. I just am curious if there would be any scenario where I could not buy MOEX from say Schwab ( not my broker but just an example). Not buying now but I do think as a value investor this presents opportunity and Russia and Mexico have a better exonomic base than the US.
>Muh self-sufficiency meme
So did the USSR yet it collapsed miserably due to stagnation and shortages.
Fuck Russia and China. They can suck each other off as they slowly collapse.
Has no one on this board heard of BRICS?
I have but what does this have to do with it outside them trading with one another?
Are you a child? You sound like a child. Nobody cares about your stupid little temper tantrum.
>lugabe fan
The buyer chooses. I personally don't care, anything that hurts Russia is good in my book. The benefits of having nothing to lose.
Who needs gas when you can go nuclear?
>b-b-but the radioactive waste!
lol just dump that shit on our enemies. I'd rather live comfortably until the planet dies than see those fucks try to dethrone us
Apples and oranges. Now is not then, and then is not now. You're making lots of grandiose assumptions about alleged Russian weakness, which leads me to suspect that you're an American. That is exactly how Americans think:
>make a bunch of assumptions
>thump your chest and brag that you're infallible and omnipotent
>get your ass kicked
>limp away crying and humiliated
>make up excuses and try to censor anyone who calls you out on your bullshit
>rinse and repeat ad nauseum
I know that you're not very smart, being a butthurt belter/NATO vassal and all, but try to think about this rationally.
Russia pushed Ukraine's shit in, in less than a day. America did nothing. Dear Leader Biden wouldn't even bother to crawl out of bed to make a statement.
Are you really so deluded that you think you'll do any better when Russia comes for you? Do you think that idle threats and bragging will defend you? Do you think that trying to guilt trip disillusioned westerners like me will cause us to drop everything, and come rushing to your aid?
They are being threatened with economic sanctions, but they still have these countries to trade with.
I also read somewhere that Russia and China had been doing military exercises in South Africa a couple of years ago.
The proxy war has just begun. Remind me again who won the Cold War? What happened to the iron curtain? Oh, that's right, they NATO now. Keep crying bitch.
You're a fucking moron if you think India is going to cozy up to China. They may be a shit hole but they have nukes to enact MAD.
HAHA he crossed state lines.
>make a bunch of assumptions
>thump your chest and brag that you're infallible and omnipotent get your ass kicked
>limp away crying and humiliated
>make up excuses and try to censor anyone who calls you out on your bullshit
>rinse and repeat ad nauseum
> enact MAD
It looks like you already got mad.
>never addressed the points made
Deflect much?
>you
You have a very strange definition of butthurt, but I won't argue. I live only to enjoy the show. The hydra bites itself, and I watch.