You said all the Hellraisers after the first were shit, this was kino

True, this one ignored the rules of the series and used the dirty cop thing plot device for the 4th or 5th time in the series.

Part 3 and 4 are forgivable for me. They're dopey but still have a lot of classic stuff in them. The straight to video ones are terrible.

Not to be a pussy but what was with all the bodily fluids in Judgement? Vomit and drinking spit and crap like that. I have no problem with gore, but it seemed like this one was actually trying to nauseate me. I kept waiting for a scene of Pinhead taking a shit in full detail.

do people ever say the second one is bad? i never saw any of these shits but the consensus is that 1 and 2 are great from what i've read

To be honest, the story for part two is pretty bad. It's just a lot of random stuff that happens.

But it kinda works, because (to be cliched) it kinda has that nightmare quality where you're following it but not really sure where anything is going. It's just tons of gruesome stuff.

It scared the shit out of me when I first saw it at 11, so take that as you will