is there any reason to use debian unstable for workstation use over something normal like fedora?
not really interested in debian stable, last time i checked the stock stable iso didn't work on my machine
Is there any reason to use debian unstable for workstation use over something normal like fedora?
Gavin White
Jack Nelson
>last time i checked the stock stable iso didn't work on my machine
even the non-free iso?
Kayden Hill
yea i had to use the mini.iso weekly installer
Wyatt Williams
>last time i checked the stock stable iso didn't work on my machine
stop buying hardware on release day
Cooper Adams
How new is your machine? The Bullseye firmware iso uses kernel 5.10 so should support most stuff but the absolute latest. I use the following and it works on my Thinkpad x13 gen 1.
cdimage.debian.org
I also add backports, contrib and non-free to the /etc/apt/sources.list file. You can just add backports, contrib and non-free tags to the main, security and update repos, but you need to add the entire backport repo string in the file as follows.
deb .debian.org
deb-src .debian.org
The only reason I use backports is to download the latest kernel from there. Otherwise I leave the rest of the system running stable, instead of upgrading it.
Luke Adams
>You can just add backports, contrib and non-free tags
main, contrib and non-free*
Jeremiah Cook
i game a bunch using lutris which updates frequently - i know the wine runners aren't installed by apt but lutris itself does a lot of fucking around with runners and such, is that available in backports for stable? not really sure what the debian rules are
Cooper Garcia
Hhahahahahaa, for me, it's Fedora. Try not being such a loser.
Owen Bennett
literally on fedora rn but the ibm association makes me mildly worried
Jason Reed
take your meds. its open source
Jose Ortiz
No idea as I don't game myself, but you can search through the backports repository for any packages you might need.
backports.debian.org
And of course, search through the regular stable repository to see what versions are currently in stable.
Aiden Nelson
meds wont help me when the interests of ibm for fedora diverge from my interests as a user
Adrian Anderson
looks like its only a few minor patch versions behind on debian stable right now
Kevin Wilson
Lutris is currently at 0.5.11. Debian stable is 0.5.8.
packages.debian.org
Brayden Bennett
And if you want the latest version, there's compatible packages from the openSuSE build service.
lutris.net
William Thompson
No, there isn’t. If you want use newer hardware or current packages because of things like development or gaming then Fedora is the clear choice.
Sure, you can use Debian, but you’ll have to tinker with it and it somewhat ruins the point of using Debian in the first place.
I went through this same thing and am glad I settled on Fedora. Sure, I wish my preferred desktop and server distros would be the same (even just same family) but unfortunately it just doesn’t line up.
Hudson Baker
Wrong. Ubutnu.
Robert Robinson
It's run by a bureaucratic democracy instead of a bureaucratic corporation.
It's more flexible, with support for multiple init systems and an unofficial project to port it to Solaris and whatnot.
If you already run Debian Stable on a server or something then you only need to know one distro instead of two.
It doesn't have exactly the same packages available.
Depending on your taste it lets you be more or less of a freetard than Fedora. (You can run it without non-free firmware, but add contrib and non-free and you can just apt install steam.)
On the whole it's not a big deal. Unless one of these things is really compelling to you Fedora might be better.
I do count Debian Unstable as "normal", FWIW.
Asher Carter
Isn't unstable kind of a clusterfuck?
Zachary Anderson
Worked on my machine.
I now run stable but only because I don't like installing updates and boy does unstable get updates often. And also because these days flatpak makes it easier to get up-to-date application software, which is most of what I really want to have the latest version of to begin with.
If you're picking it just because stable doesn't work on your machine you could instead install testing and wait for it to freeze into stable. You can't do that with unstable.
Christopher Adams
Less major updates, longer support period.
>unstable
Testing.