Rumors: Russia is withdrawing because it's preparing for a nuclear strike

Rumors: Russia is withdrawing because it's preparing for a nuclear strike.

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This would be the first offensive nuclear strike in human history and probably the last thing Russia would do before losing all support in the east

well, the ones on the japanese cities would precede that,
russians still would lose more than they'd ever gain by this.

I think Putins authority is overhyped.

Sure he's technically the shotcaller, but i don't even believe his Kremlin allies would support him if it comes to this.

Unlikely. It's a landgrab. Can't grab radioactive land.

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this. Not only it's a landgrab and radioactive land, but the whole operation was sold as "reclaiming the freedom of our ukrainian brothers"
Can't really say you've liberated them if they're all, you know, dead.

Atomic bombs are not equivalent to nuclear payloads r-tard

Also Japan attacked the US and no one knew how strong those weapons are. And back then, Bombs were around 10 kilotons of TNT, modern MIRVS are roughly 50 times

This isn't a problem, as Russia just wants Ukraine as a war field between the West and east, and as a dock for their navy. But still, the nuclear dust will still drift to Russia and Belarus and give oligarchs cancer

There's also a rumor that trans women are real women.

If you are talking about nuclear MIRVs then you should know that is a very highly sophisticated multiple surgical strike weapon. Still nuclear. No demon core.

I have no idea what your point is because its well documented what ordinance was dropped in Japan and America's case

Russia is "withdrawing" because they know what flanking is.

compared to modern nukes they were not big, however.
the atomic bombs were literally nuclear payloads in every sense.
they also still outperform every conventional bomb used before or since.
what mainly sets them apart from todays nukes is that only one country had them at the time.
the russos would get the same response from the world whether they detonated a vintage little boy over ukraine or one of their latest models.
maybe step away from the keyboard if you have no idea what you're saying.

Yeah if he wants a return to the USSR glory days this isn’t how he’s going to do it.

Yeah but they didn't know if they'll wipe out the entire city or not.

From a civil point of view, there's no difference if they're flying a nuclear bomb, launch an ICBM or send Tambo the Great, all of them will destroy a city and leave nuclear fallout. American MIRVs are designed to not leave as much fallout, yes, but I doubt the Russians do that to, since they're also super proud about their neutron bombs.

Russia has a whole lot of tactical nukes sitting in their inventory and not much else.
They are buying missiles from North Korea, so they are desperate.
Russia would have been out of funding if not for China buying their oil.
Putin is desperate and it’s possible we’ll see some area denial weapons used soon.

Yeah compared to modern nukes, after decades of testing an atomic bomb can leave one hell of a crater. They used plutonium and different methods of activation. It was not nuclear fission.

You'd be surprised what they actually knew. Had remote detonation been available at the time the demon cores COULD have done more damage.
However creating a fuse system to implode plates simultaneously wasnt ideal but it worked. ALOT of plutonium did not react correctly.

Regrouping for more armaments

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It's not even clear if their nukes are still operational. The US spends 60 billion on nuclear weapon management, and they basically reduced their ICBM portfolio to Minuteman III and Trident II, and they only have 5 different MIRV types to care for. Russia officially spends 60 billion on their entire army and has to care for hundreds of different nuclear weapons, ICBM, Bombs, warheads, rocket tips etc. This is why pentagon experts think most of their arsenal is unavailable and just rots

Russia has no nukes left. All the maintenance money got corrupted away.

Besides, if Russia nukes anything a broken arrow is likely to end up in the back of a delivery van near the kremlin

You're living in a fantasy world. Russia has extremely dangerous weapons, some that outcompete the US

I very much doubt Russia would use a nuke. Putin would essentially admit that the invasion was a complete failure and hence had to use a nuke as a last resort. It would completely negate all current propaganda efforts and send a very bad message to those that support the war. Essentially, using a nuke, would say “our mighty most advanced and superior military completely failed to take over this tiny country of Nazis so we had to pull out and nuke them instead.” This is not even considering the political and military aftermath this would cause.

The information of who controls what is unintelligible.

they still outdo anything conventional, have the "nuclear label" which the world treats accordingly and lastly, if tbe russians are using scaled down tactical nukes, the difference is so much less severe, for all intents and purposes, it's the same thing as far as the aftermath is concerned.

There's no way anyone with actual access to launch nuclear weapons would actually do it. 50/50 if the cold war systems would even work, 90/10 Ukr air defense would intercept missile, 100% chance of complete nuclear annihilation of Russia

Nah, they really don't. Russia's weapons are from the 1980s and all the modernisation money got spent on mega yachts, mansions, hookers and cocaine. All thier gear is broken and rusting... there is no reason to assume the nukes are any different.

Literally they have a couple of prototype T14 armata tanks that don't work as advertised eitherway and no working 5th generation fighters. They can't even comprehensively invade Ukraine. You are dreaming Russia is powerful. US > China > EU > Russia at this stage I would say even 4th is ambitious and doubt they could invade even India

It's no just about a military and defensive land grab. It's also about economic preservation

Some years ago Ukraine discovered 3trill dollers worth of gas reserves on it land

Russia's main strike points have been centered around these untapped gas reserves.

Now they never cared before because Ukraine was far too poor to get the equipment to be able to actually do anything with them so Russia didn't see them as a threat to their gas trade.

But then Ukraine approaches the EU asking to join

If Ukraine joins the EU the EU will fund the extraction of the gas under te condition they get a really really good deal of it therefore massively undercutting Russia.

And given Ukraine is basically on the EU boarder it would be easier for them to deliver rather then building hundreds of miles of gas lines and given that the EU is Russia's biggest gas customer it would severely cripple the Russian economy

Russia has basically fuck all its main exports are gas oil and wheat. They don't really produce much else. So loosing their EU gas money would be a severe blow.

Combine that with talk of Ukraine joining NATO and Putin in shitting the bed

Russia is an INCREDIBLY hard to defend HUGE flat plain with barely any defensible spots

The trial mountains in the Ukraine if probibly the only really defendable site in the area and the Ukraine controls it.

If Ukraine joins NATO it would allow the west to build military bases deep into undefendable Russian territory allowing land invasion to be much much more successful.

This loss in Ukraine marks the end for Russia. The world stage basically hates them and glorifies Ukraine his actions have almost set in stone and cemented Ukraine's deals with NATO and the EU

The sad thing is Putin is soly to blame if he's have spent less of his counties money pissed up the wall on his oligarks and cocaine and actually spent it on developing his country keeping its military up to scratch etc etc he would have run them over

Like the hypersonic missiles and thermobaric missiles they used in the beginning of the war? The media was running in circles when they used them in the beginning of the war, as the US "doesn't have those", but in the end Russia could only afford to launch their 3 prototypes for propaganda without causing any damage. Like a shaman blowing aluminum dust into a fire, it might look impressive and some people believe him when he says he talked to gods, but in the end it's just a simple trick.
Btw, the USAF will add hypersonic missiles to their arsenal around 2023. The reason why they didn't fund research so far was because they're expensive to build while less important in a battlefield than Russian propaganda claims