My biggest sexual fetish is degradation. I like it when a woman has sex with someone and doesn’t enjoy it. Note that I don’t mean rape - the woman has to enter into it willingly.
For example, imagine a happily married wife and mother, early 30s, goes to church, takes the kids to school, happy and friendly to neighbors. Her husband works hard but is not paid well. She feels pain that her children wear hand-me-downs and they can never afford a family holiday.
Enter an agent of corruption. Single, wealthy, not hideously ugly but faintly repellent to women due to traces of smugness and hatred they pick up on after a while. Capable of short-term superficial charm. He notices her - in the supermarket, on the train, during the school run - and strikes up conversation. They are pleasant to each other. He makes her aware through subtle words and gestures that he has money and learns in turn that she does not.
One day he shocks her. He tells her that he will pay $15,000 to sleep with her. She stutters angrily and he waved his hand. $20,000, then, he says, throwing in another $5,000 as though it isn’t life changing money for her. She says no, though not before an image of what she could do with all that money flashes through her mind. She flushes with guilt and horror.
He gives her his card in case she changes her mind, and without quite knowing why she slips it into one of her books instead of throwing it away.
It’s nearly Christmas. She is struggling. Her children, whom she loves, will have dime-store presents and a plastic tree salvaged from a neighbor. Her husband had an accident at work and the medical bills have added to the strain. She puts on a smile and a positive front but the atmosphere in the house is quiet and sad.
She thinks about the stranger’s offer. She thinks of all the things that $20,000 could buy and how many of their problems it would fix. She thinks of debts paid, food bought, and her children’s joy at seeing real presents beneath a real tree. Over time she begins to equate the money with her children’s potential happiness, and her guilt at even contemplating the offer is tainted with guilt that she is denying them that happiness.
And for what, she thinks, for pride? Was she a wife first, or a mother? A mother, she thinks, and in any case a wife does what she can to help her husband. Pride didn’t even come into it. It doesn’t matter what she does with her body, she thinks, as long as her heart remains pure. One night, after hearing her son cry himself to sleep, she pours herself a glass of wine, steels herself, and calls the number.
They arrange for a day when her husband is out and her children are at school. When he arrives she suppresses the sense of rising panic and answers the door. She is dressed in normal clothes, the clothes she wears to church or to see her friends, as he requested.
He doesn’t want her to enjoy it. She tries to smile but he’s leering at her with an evil grin. She feels a glimmer of fear but realised that things have progressed to far for anything meaningful to stop it, and she turns her mind to her children and what the money will buy them.
He licks her face. He pulls off her socks and sucks on her toes. He gives thick wet kisses along her soles, her calves.
He fucks her panting like a dog over the kitchen table where she eats with her family. He’s hard and moves like a piston, not caring to make it pleasurable for her. She steadies herself awkwardly against the furniture and a chair clatters to the ground as he drives his hips back and forth.
He takes her to her marriage bed and fucks her from behind. He points out the wedding photo on her bedside table and she covers her face in shame.
Julian Gray
He laughs, spitting on her asshole and slipping his thumb inside. She lets out a yelp of protest and he roars at her to shut the fuck up.
He rolls her round and orders her to uncover her face. She pleads with him but he tells her that if she doesn’t, he won’t pay her a penny. She moves her hands away and he looks into a face filled with pain and abject humiliation. He spits on her face and sucks on her toes again, holding her leg close to his body and thrusting faster and harder. Finally he lets out a squeal, squealing as freakishly as he can, like a pig, like a beast, and slobbering all over her face as he cums inside her. He’s saved up for this moment and his hips twitch and jerk as hot, thick, yellowish cum shoots inside her and oozes out slowly as he slips his cock out.
He slaps his semi-erect cock on her face a few times. She is lying still and quiet. Her head is turned to the side and tears are flowing down her face. It is very clear that she bitterly regrets what has happened.
He dresses as she lies there and tosses an envelope thick with cash on the bed. She hears the click of a phone camera but doesn’t move. He leaves her there and, after a while, she gets up, changes the sheets, and sits huddled in the shower for a long time.
She blames the money on a scratch card win and does her best to join in with her family’s celebrations. Her children have their presents. Bills are paid. Husband’s happy.
But I’m the middle of that happy family she’s consumed with self-hatred which she just about keeps hidden. No matter how much she tries to rationalise or forget what has happened it eats away at her and keeps her lying awake in the middle of the night. Her own sexual relations with her husband break down and he can’t understand why. She finds herself snapping at her children. No matter what she does or where she goes, she can’t escape the feeling that she has been marked, somehow, that what she did has stained her forever.
Carter Clark
All this to ask - what do you think is more degrading for a woman? To be fucked by a rowdy black youth who whistles at her in the park, or a fat, greasy trucker in an alley, or to let some sticky pale incel who hates women and shoots yellowish cum into her house, to fuck her furiously in her marriage bed?
Nolan Ross
Would you include incest in this?
Josiah Smith
Bump
James Myers
Only the individual woman could answer that. It could be any one of them, or they might all be equally degrading, or she might not find any of them degrading in the way that your fantasy revolves around. She might find them gross but not feel deeply disturbed by fucking them, because she doesn't subscribe to your concepts of purity and "the marriage bed". Would you describe yourself as an incel, OP?
Gavin Evans
Let me rephrase it, my friend.
Which of the following do you think is more unpleasant and degrading for a happily married, attractive wife and mother in her early 30s? Imagine she looks like pic related.
A >A rowdy black youth is physically and emotionally bullying her children at school. She agrees to let him see her tits in exchange for him desisting. However he becomes aggressive and blackmails her into letting him fuck her in the back seat. She does not enjoy it.
B >At a fancy charity ball with her husband she mistakenly comes to believe that he has cheated on her. She leaves the event angry and heartbroken and starts to walk home. As she passes a dive bar a fat, greasy trucker smoking outside whistles to her, approaches, and starts to hit on her. On a whim, in her pain, she lets him lift up the skirt of her expensive black dress and fuck her like a pig behind some dumpsters in the alley. She does not enjoy it. Later she finds out she was mistaken about her husband.
C >Her neighbors son is a thin, pale incel who rarely ventures out and smells terrible. One Summer afternoon her husband puts on a BBQ and invites the neighbors. The son comes along briefly and, unknown to them, installs a keylogger on their computer. He gains access to her accounts and discovers that she is hiding a large amount of credit card debt from her husband. He blackmails her into letting him fuck her, hissing and spitting and squealing at her, in her marriage bed, until he shoots her full of yellowish cum. She does not enjoy it.
In all of these scenarios the woman feels wracked with pain and humiliation, and bitterly regrets allowing the sex to happen. She grows depressed and feels that she has been stained forever.
Please rank them in order of most to least degrading, it would be very helpful for me.
There's no way for me to answer that. The woman is fictional. You are the author. Whichever one you want to upset her the most is the one that upsets her the most.
Blake Jenkins
But I'm asking you in reality, assuming the woman is real, and is happily married, and loves her young children, which do you think is more degrading for her, 'ceteris paribus'?
Unfortunately I can never affect any of these in reality though I may pay to make a high quality short film of each scenario eventually. The best I can do is offer financially disadvantaged married women high amounts of money to sleep with me. I've only been successful twice. Some reject me outright and some accept too readily so I rebuff them. But there were two attractive women who I paid $25k each and I really did enjoy both of those occasions, and they both really did not, but they slept with me willingly. I can get sex normally but the power imbalance just isn't there, even doing tame things like choking or slapping. They aren't 'quality women' like these wives and mothers who feel such guilt.
Asher Reyes
What about my idea?
Aiden Nelson
Oh, in that case,
Jason Parker
I don't like incest and don't believe a quality, well-adjusted, 'normal' woman would ever contemplate having sex with her son. To the normal human mind a single act of infidelity on her part may be preferable to to permanent breakdown of a marriage and family, but having sex with your own son is the destruction of that family in a far more bizarre and unnatural way. It would never happen.
Aiden Bennett
I guess then maybe something like the wife is forced to become the town bike, everyone gets a ride and she has to look her husband in the eye knowing there's cream in her pussy and that he thankfully doesn't know
I’d really prefer if you did that to liberal sluts instead, they already have it coming to em and there’s no one on earth that expresses more disgust than a liberal woman trying to project it through their eyes, since if they tried to contain it they’d be too weak to take it out on anyone. house wives have a high chance of climax even with your scenarios, a liberal woman on the brink absolutely none
Nicholas Gutierrez
>Guy is happy his gf is going to a really fancy school, expensive type >Later you find out she's sucking and fucking her way into paying the tuition
prefer as in slightly fixed cause there’s plenty left to polish on that figurine you’re making. there’s nothing like seeing a liberal woman take themselves apart
Robert Moore
>a kill all men, kind of student for punishment is locked in a room with all her male classmates
My good man, I asked you to rank the three options provided, not give your own. I prefer subtlety - a 'town bike' stretches the bounds of that subtlety and isn't attractive to me.
It's the degradation and humiliation of a 'good' woman, a 'quality' woman, someone who loves her husband and children, goes to church, and tries to be a good person, entering - either through a moment of ultimate weakness, or through blackmail, or desperation - into a sexual union she finds disgusting and repellent. In doing so she stains herself. She can't enjoy it! Can't give into lust or physical pleasure like in those terrible doujins. I am aroused by the fall of a normally virtuous woman - and the more terrible and humiliating the fall, the better!
What do you think of those three scenarios I provided?
Good man, excellent man, you can do better than that, your reply is still so vague. You say they all might be degrading, or none of them, she might not believe in notions of purity, she might be a free love hippy, blah, blah.
Assume she is a normal woman. A modest woman, housewife, homemaker. She loves her husband and children and she DOES believe in purity, she DOES want to be a faithful wife. Her wedding vows meant something to her.
You know the type of woman I am talking about - the woman who married her high school sweetheart, with girl-next-door looks. The woman you see holding a child's hand in each of her own, walking them to school, loading shopping in her car, smiling and waving at the neighbors.
Which is more degrading for the woman I have told you she is? How does she think, feel, and react to each? It would be a kindness for you to contribute.
