Any commies here...

I do read Nietzsche, well Zarathustra atleast, and that's why he wants me to read Das Kapital, because I don't agree with him. He says money is the solution to all problems. I say it's about power and that we must change our behavior.

>starting at zarathustra

and I wasn't the one who wrote the Jordan Peterson bit

What's wrong with that? You gotta start somewhere and I related to it. One thing about Nietzsche that's interesting is how he (through this work) revered power and action (correct me if I'm wrong) but at the same time failed at realizing his own short-comings in the sense that he was a loner. Being able to remain yourself in a group is a greater power than being yourself on your own.

It's just that Jordan Peterson continually harps on about Nietzsche and especially Dostoevsky while crying. I'll have you know that I have read two of Nietzsche's books Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Also, you spelt Dostoevsky's name wrong so who's the retard now?

I dont think it was that he was a “loner” I think he was just sick alot. Dude had syphilas or something. But interacted with people and nature whenever he could. He probably died a decent man like he wanted to instead of a great man but he died with the belief of overcoming. The difference with orthodox nietzscheans like myself and orthodox marxists or marxists and socialists of any form is how we see power. You see your marxist friend is bent on slave morality. The same thing that fuels christianity for example. Thats why you see marxism still being preached despite largely collapsing 30 years ago. It panders to the slaves to live. And it needs an oppressor to live. Same thing for cultural marxism. It all ultimately comes from christianity’s slave morality though. Which was borrowed by the jews and which the jews borrowed from zoroastrianism.

Also I think its better to read from the order it was written. Lots of people misunderstand zarathustra even though its really good. But even I had trouble understanding sometimes and I did a lot of research and still need alot more. Its been like this for more than 6 years

Fair enough. I just based that assumption on intuition as I've seen some youtube videos about him. He apparently wrote a letter to some love interest expressing wanting her or something and not wanting to be alone. That seems pathetic to me to be honest (although, most people are pathetic). It's like one side of power he didn't pay attention to and the reason why (some) people thinks pimps and fuckboys are cool: because they have the power to seduce (understand and manipulate) women.

I'll admit I'm not very knowledgable on communism/marxism so correct me if I'm wrong but it appears to me to be a "solution" to suffering caused by the power hierarchy (yes, I stole this from Peterson): Although, in order to work the oppressor must be benevolent which seems to be impossible making communism idealistic rather than realistic. It also seem to remove any kind of incentive for people to improve themselves. Anyone who dislikes being uncomfortable and (by extension) like being weak would choose communism. What do you mean with slave morality? I guess Nietzsche has covered this as I know he has criticized Christianity.

Would you care to give some exampels of some common misunderstandings? I feel like I realize when I don't really understand. For instance, I remember reading through the soldier or warrior part where it seems he contradicts himself when talking about obedience. Recently, in Involuntarily Bliss, he wrote about his children and the love for them and I guess how that comfort makes him weak, making him unable to take risks or suffer in order to grow, but I'm not sure if these children are the product of his work, his disciples or actual children.

Basically slave morality is stuff like egalitarianism while master morality is about gaining power. Slave morality judges intentions, master morality judges actions. Modern degeneracy seems bent on slave morality because the herd is too cowardly.
Hmm my guess would be his actual children as youre more responsible for children. While there was a part somewhere where nietzsche said that the master must at one point abandon his disciples in order to let them grow. Disciples dont really hinder you if you want them to go and overcome themselves. Rather children are because youre responsible to their upbringing.

Im really tired atm so Im going asleep, but definitely read more nietzsche. He explains alot like why the west is so degenerate now. Its not bezmenov or da joos or capitalism. Its the decline of christianity and the safe keeping of its slave morality. Its worst aspect