/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.) and your country.

>NEWS
New CPU and GPU generations later this year

>RECOMMENDED FORM FACTOR
ATX is the standard choice, alternatively ITX or even MATX

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105
Budget Gaming: i3 12100/F > R5 5500
Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400/F+cooler
Multicore: R9 5900X/5950X, i7 12700/F
Best Gaming: R7 5800X3D
k CPUs are not recommended

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used GTX 1060/1070, RX 470/580
1080p: RX 6600/XT
1440p: RX 6700 XT, RTX 3060ti
2160p: RX 6800 XT, RX 6900 XT, RTX 3080

>RAM
Minimum: 2x 8GB DDR4 3200CL16/3600CL18
Recommended:
DDR4: 4x 8GB DDR4 3600CL16 (any rank) or 2x dual-rank 16GB DDR4 3600CL16
DDR5: 2x 16GB 5600MHz Kingston

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Silver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)
Take into account transient spikes when sizing your PSU to your GPU, especially with Nvidia
cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
rtings.com/monitor/
pcmonitors.info/
displayninja.com/buying-guide/

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Ryzen 5800x
Gigabyte X570 mini-itx

Fitting inside a Thermaltake tower 100

What GPU do you guys recommend?

amazon.com/dp/B09NQB5VZV/ref=aod_recs_desktop_prsubs_0
this looks interdasting

>mini-itx
why do you hate yourself?

I'd recommend a 5700x over the 5800x for starters since you only lose like maybe 5% performance, but it's much easier to keep cool in a small case like that.

Cannot possibly answer your GPU question without knowing what resolution and framerate you're targeting.

Mostly program shaders using touchdesigner
A little bit of autocad, if I do play games.. I think the most "intense" would be red dead redemption 2 @4k would like a playable frame rate 60+... might be getting into VR/AR mostly for 'immersive experiences' (not porn i promise) rather than video games.

need something small. Currently have a mid-tower and just don't have space for it. It's very crowded on my desk.

Currently have a 2060. Good card, but not sure if it can handle what I want to achieve.

when are alder lake prices going to get lower bros

what is this shit? why do i have to pay a premium for a plain green/blue/red/white motherboard?

12100f is cheap enough for me

I just bought an used h200i from marketplace and now I'm having trouble finding a fucking itx board for a 5600g, also the fucking sfx psus are hard to find these days so I'm wondering, should I even bother or should I just get another case and start over?

End of the month probably

For people that claim to not care about how computers look, Any Forums sure shits itself anytime a component looks slightly different from normal

Already pretty low

opinions on fractal poop air cases? anybody bought one of those?
how are the stock fans?

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don't do this to me, i just bought an aldy laek

i've been bitching about components looking silly for years

i have a define ?r2? and the bitumen fell off the inside of the top panel

Prices on last gen stuff are only going to go down as AMD puts its new stuff out in a few weeks and Raptor Lake comes out soon after and we get closer to holiday sales.

man, this place has really fried my brain. the first thing i see when i read "B650 LiveMixer" is "Black LivesMatter". especially with all that graffiti-like "art" on the board

not building, but purchasing question:
my neighbor has a 2014 mac mini w/ an i7 and 16gb of ram, he's getting rid of it and said i could have it for 150usd.
is that a good price and is it recent enough to be usable? i'll pretty much use it for recording videos for youtube and maybe basic editing. i'll probably do the majority of editing/processing on my desktop.
or, worst case, is it good enough as a home media center type thing?

Zen 4 3D to launch at CES

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So much for 6000 being the sweet spot, Intel sisters we win again
twitter.com/SquashBionic/status/1565012130746998784

Yeah, that's absolutely usable for some very very minor video stuff and definitely as a media player. Having a Mac around just to tool around on for that price seems worth it.

Hey! I posted in this thread the other day about how I was building an Evangelion ASUS ROG themed PC and was getting a 12400F to save money and got shredded for buying that CPU paired with a high-end GPU. Several people told me to upgrade the CPU, but I didn't really understand why because all the benchmarks I looked at showed that for 1440p the 12400F was plenty powerful.

I decided to listen to your advice and I bought both the 12400F and the i9-12900K and went through the trouble of testing both with a 3090.

At max, the difference in FPS I saw in the games I tested at 1440p was around 10 FPS. This was in Total War Warhammer 3. In most games, the FPS difference was around 4-5. I ran several stress tests and long-term gameplay sessions in some competitive games and didn't notice any issues with the i5-12400F.

So I'm not sure why exactly anyone would need anything more than a 12400F for gaming purposes if you're playing at under 200FPS 1440p. Just thought I'd let you guys know that for recommending things to people in the future. I returned the 12900K and saved $300-400.

does it have an SSD or is it moddable to put one in? pretty sure Macs are designed so that they run well with even as low as like 2GB RAM so with 16GB that's probably really amazing specs. i'm sure that thing will run like a dream as long as it's got an SSD in it.

it has a haswell laptop i7 cpu, gpu is h5000, ram is soldered in, you can replace its sata 2.5 hhd with an ssd though

maybe a bad choice for a media center if you plan to watch 4k videos since it doesn't have any hardware decoders for hevc, vp9 and av1 codecs

how stupid would it be to buy this right now if its a significant upgrade?

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What? I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus unless you were buying the wrong mobo for the 12400F. The only reason to get the 12900k is if you need way more processing power for like editing AND you're going to overclock it. Otherwise it's pointless for gaming.

magnetic screwdrivers y/n

avoid 16xx and 20xx they are already dead

>they are already dead
what does that mean?

3060 will be same price in 3 months. trust the plan.

No support for them at all, the 3k series is already on the way out with the 4k dropping soon.

Is it safe to buy LGA1700 board now for Raptor Lake or will it require updated bios to boot?

Well, I posted at night, so maybe the evening crew in this thread has a different opinion. It was about 5-6 replies saying the 12400F wasn't good enough.

What’s the reason for case IO cables to be so unflexible. I have a case here that has two thick USB 3 cables, one for each port, and if that isn’t enough the two cables are combined into one connector so now I have a cable that’s impossible to bend into place putting strain on the motherboard header. Why can’t they just make them flexible. It wouldn’t be a fire hazard, there are certified cables that are flexible. This is a high end case so it can’t possibly be cost cutting? It has all these QoL things yet the cables are gay. They aren’t retarded, are they?

100% you will need a bios update since
so buy a mobo with a bios update button

I've just created this build and I'm wondering if everything is ok here. It'll be used not only for gaming but not heavy virtualization, programming etc. Nothing serious but I'd like to have more than less power. Thinking about cooling too as there is a lot of to choose from. And to be honest, I wouldn't like to go beyond the already estimated price.

pcpartpicker.com/user/atrybut/saved/#view=Kjxdbv

>No support for them at all
the performance they have wont disappear tho? if i buy it for what it is then i'd be happy with what i get

already waited a year so another couple months cant hurt but how guaranteed are these price drops? are they really gonna dip below this?

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