Tell me Any Forums why shouldn't food, housing, healthcare be free and available for everyone?

Tell me Any Forums why shouldn't food, housing, healthcare be free and available for everyone?

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be cool if it was, but someone has to do it. someone has to grow and make the stuff and give it away. who wants to do that? no ones gonna stop you from giving those things to people if you want

food is almost free in america. we have a surplus and everyone is fat here, no one is starving. churches and schools will give you free food if you ask, and often hold events giving food away.

Because it takes labor. Demanding free shit is asking for slavery.

Anyone that says it shouldn't is just being an contrarian twat edgelord. But the real problem is that the idea isn't achievable in a modern capitalist society at the stage ours is. You can't do a hard reset on how societies think and act.

It's not for free...you're getting other things that you don't make or provide yourself also given to you.

Seizing the means of production is a retarded meme, the average worker is a dumbfuck, why should they have control over millions of dollars worth of machinery?
Funny image tho, troons and faggots would be executed first in a communist country

Who's going to pay for it, asshole?

Because muh values and muh freedom and uhhhh other stuff Americans say

You can go live in the mid west. Land is free there. Just gotta build your house.

Because I want to eat better food, live in better housing and receive better healthcare than poor people.

Because you don't want free housing. You want a free house that someone else built for you. You're lazy. You choose to live in squalor. I used to think like you until I realized how easy it was to just start doing stuff. If you spend less time bitching on the Internet and more time doing stuff with your life, you'd have a home to be proud of. Go claim an abandoned house and fix it up. You won't because you're lazy.

There is no reason. The idea that socialism means no one can earn more and there is no incentive is false.

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He didn't say a house, those were the angry voices in your head.

OP is talking about things from a societal standpoint, not an individual standpoint.

Because you depend on what the govt. want to give you and you can never have what you want. Also, the uncertainty that one day, you will not receive the free stuff anymore and you will be just a parasite without a host.

Yes, because losing the US government seems more likely than you losing your shitty job at Wendys. Try hard simple jack.

Who pays for the seeds for the crops?
Who pays for the fertiliser for the crops?
Who pays for the insecticides for the crops?
Who pays for the labor in sowing and reaping?
Who pays to transport the crops to the factory for processing?
Who pays to build the truck or train that transports the food?
Who pays for the fuel, oil and rubber they use?
Who pays for the labor to dig up clay and turn it into bricks?
Who pays to have the bricks laid?
Who pays for the concrete, the paint, the wood, the wiring?
Who pays for the medical student to study?
Who pays for the hospital, the X-ray machines, the medicines, the pathology?

“Well durr, the government obviously”
And where does the government get the money?
“From the people”

So you still end up with a bunch of corrupt privileged assholes in charge.
Except they're allowed to shoot you like Blokhin, or rape your kids like Beria, or genocide whole groups of people like Yagoda.

“…but that wasn’t real communism…”

Just fuck off. Come back when you pass econ 101.

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It is not free, it is extracted from the taxes. And then the industry becomes an ugly thing on life dupport like medicine in post ussr.

Funny how socialists seem to be overwhelmingly be individuals who say "we should all share what we have, let's put it an a pile and divide it up equally, I got nothing, let's see what you're contributing".

We pay for those anyway, but instead of government inefficiency, we help pay for executives who own million dollar homes in 5 states who make our lives harder on purpose. Free isn't the right word but pretending you aren't a cuck is similarly false.

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See? You think everyone has shitty jobs like you. Try harder poorfag.

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they are the failures and the rejects of society, but you should really trust them, they might be too lazy to go out in a group of like minded people to buy a large plot of land and make it their "socialist utopia", but they sure as shit know how we should run society

>as he pays 50% of his paycheck
>gets nothing
>celebrates

For what "those", you dumb bithch? Have you lived in a country with free health care?

You are a Wendys chef, we love you

Tell me how that is possible without slave labor or stealing from someone.

Yes and it's great. You pay the exact same thing as the US in taxes but instead of it going to the military, you get healthcare and education. Kind of crazy you want the CEOs of missile makers to get your money rather than your children, but maybe you were molested.