I wish things were more clear cut when it came to religion...

I wish things were more clear cut when it came to religion. I hate the fact that I will most likely never truly know if there is a god or not, if there is or isn't an afterlife, etc.

Science seems to disprove a lot of the things that religion has traditionally believed (earth created in 7 days, adam and eve, etc.), but it will never be able to explain where the universe came from or why we have atoms and quarks and whatever.

On the other hand though, thinking that God or some other divine creator created the universe because we don't know how it was created kinda feels like a "god of the gaps" fallacy.

This wouldn't bother me if it wasn't for the possibility of this life being my only chance at consciousness or me going to hell for choosing the wrong/no religion.

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well this isnt your only chance of conciousness, provided you create a clone of your mind. thats if the tech was ever invented and wasnt deemed a violation of nature or something

If I created a clone of my own mind, the clone would live when I die and not myself.

Ever considered that God might not be how religion describes?

Well, it depends on what you mean. I've considered that given the practically infinite amount of possibilities on what God could be, religions on Earth would most likely be wrong.

Religion is evil

the answers you seek won't be found from the comfort of your desk chair, but to be honest you're probably better off without them; the logical value of morality stands on its own (despite what all the russian propaganda posted to this board says to the contrary)

Religion says the good guy that could heal people was a required blood sacrifice and the evil immortal devil was created and allowed to run around for all eternity tempting humans into unneeded hellfire.

Religion is stupid.

It's not like atheism is any more logical either. We don't and may never know what caused the big bang or why the laws of physics are the way they are. Science can really only explain how the universe began but not why.

Atheism: There's no god because there's no proof

Religions: There's a god and you have no proof (but neither do I but god says not to question where he came from because the answer will come in due time)

Atheism doesn't claim what caused the big bang. It just says the universe was once in a small dense state, and has begun to expand.

There are certainly trillions upon trillions of worlds in this picture, however. The bible explains none of it and the limited space in the book includes ways to treat your slaves from other nations (Leviticus 25 44-46), not to eat shellfish or wear mixed fabric, but absolutely nothing useful or advanced like germ theory, mathematics, or how about how humans should stop making everything out of lead like they have been for 8,500 years.

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>I will most likely never truly know if there is a god or not, if there is or isn't an afterlife, etc.

Oh, you'll know.

religion was created to help keep the poor from killing the rich

I still think that the odds of Earth religions being correct is practically zero, but I can't get behind choosing a side (i.e. denying the existence of a creator without solid evidence) on this topic when it seems impossible to actually get a clear cut answer.

basically imagine being a half retarded monkey hybrid trying to explain
>earth in different orbit about 6000 years ago
>mid space collision between us and something else, bolt of fire across the sky was probably a shockwave in the stratosphere from said collision(war of heavens)
>major, catastrophic events like earthquakes and floods from gravitational norms being fucked (hi noah)
>settle into new orbit around Helios, light reflects prismatically on water from new orbit due to it being significantly closer to it (gods promise to never flood earth)
>magnetic poles flipped, earth potentially flipped during impact course correction, but is elliptical and didnt continue

aaaahhh but you can user

there is a gate you have not yet discovered or experienced. if you had you would not be asking these questions. you _can_ know for certain. but it is uncomfortable and will likely generate more questions than answers.

you see, high levels of hallucinogens breaks down the ego and you experience something outside. a realization that we are all one and the same thing, the monad. you see there is only one consciousness, and we are all just subdivisions of it, experiencing itself in this eternal dream. don't believe me? extract and smoke dmt... you will see...

/r/dmt
/r/dmtlab
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dmt-nexus.me

Creation testifies of it’s creator. You are withour excuse.

Well I already mentioned that. I don't think something like the universe could have came about except by the work of a creator. But I still have an underlying feeling of anxiety that my idea may just be from a "god of the gaps" mindset.

You realize Adam chose to disobey thus earning death. To save his children required Jesus life. We are not the only ones in this fore there are Angels too bound by laws. So to buy back God's condemnation we deserved required Gods son to balance what Adam threw away.

Prove it, scientifically! Show us a self creating universe from nothing!

Atheist dont make sense.

but we do what we want uwu pog

Until the out break of the Great Tribulation and then Armageddon!