I want to test a theory

I want to test a theory.
The only true test of sentience is:
To convince someone or something that you are sentient.

That's it. Right? Tell me i'm wrong and convince me. Then you can fill the thread with porn.

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Wrong. A dog can not convince you that it's sentient although it is.
AI can convince you that it's sentient although it's not.

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Missing the point. If A.I can convince you it's sentient, then it is sentient when you are convinced.

After you are no longer convinced, then it becomes none sentient.
So sentients is based off perspective. That perspective being how sure we are something is alive and smart enough to be like us.

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If you think about it, that's probably why we are here instead of with the others.

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>If A.I can convince you it's sentient, then it is sentient when you are convinced.
I think you're missing the point. AI might convince one person but not another. What then?
If you have a 60 IQ and you're convinced of senscience, then what? Who made (You) the arbiter of senscience?

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You yourself made the yourself the arbiter. It's just that as things go on it get's harder and harder to convince yourself that other people are not at least as smart as you. if not smarter.

In that sense. If a retard is able to convince you it's smart enough to be sentient you'll treat it that way. So the only thing that matters is selling the act.

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hmm as a test, i suppose convincing someone else that you are sentient could work, however in order for it to work well, the same definition of sentience must be held by both the tester and the person being observed

sentience to me is less about intelligence, or the ability to memorize and apply information about the environment, and more about self awareness, so you could have a sentient organism which is not intelligent enough to realize it is sentient, but is still intelligent enough or perhaps instinctual enough to survive and propagate as all life.

so basically a sentient being can feel and react to its environment, so basically any system of sensors and responses can exhibit sentient behavior within some limit of complexity

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the only thing that matters is selling the act, so long as an act is all that is required

So sentience is established only within the presence of an observer? Sentience requires TWO sentients to exist at all? That's some quantum shit right there. If the 'convincability' of a random audience determines sentience then sentients are some narcissistic motherrfuckers amirite? You and me both, I suppose.

What i was gunna say to
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Also is i think correct.

It's all about fooling someone long enough to make it matter. And that takes time, like religion or acupuncture. It's all about making the smartest people in the room think you could be as smart as them one day and you've got rights. So how do you do that? You have to act sentient like them. Emulate them. Do stuff they do.

Play, fuck things, have long memory's and amazing computer brains made of jelly and tentacles. Make tools, Laws, murder, intoxication fornication desiccation for ritual and scientific purposes.

Space travel. Telescopes. A picture in the dark. Maybe someone. Somewhere. Will come and get us off this wild ride.

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In fact, a certain amount of narcissism is found in every single sentient species now that i think about it.

Even octopie. And they do gay sex for fun and bottom from the top.

Strange. Curiosity, bravery, survivale. Must be part of every cycle. Every lifeform. Horrible.

Proof there is a god. A entire galactic frontier full of racists. I feel right at home.

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yep that explains why ive never gotten anywhere with those kinds of people, im a bit too original, and hate pretending to be someone im not

doesnt work. P-zombies can convince a sentient agent that they are sentient despite lacking sentience in the first place

what are p-zombies?