If they don't look like human, I can't relate. It doesn't matter if they have other anthropomorphic traits

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Then phrase it less like a faggot then.

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>elves
>dwarfs
>dragons
>filth races
this is beyond cope of someone who wishes humans to be always on top

GOD I hate furries so much...

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Not OP because I don't post wojak faggotry yet I could understand what he was trying to say

Humans invented elves, dwarfs, dragons, and turned them into little mascots for sale.
So yes, all those imaginary races which were created by the God known as Human imagination are by that effect subhuman filth races.
Are you really this mentally retarded?

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I only play as humans because it's the superior experience. I don't want a subpar experience.

*sells many millions and nearly overtakes mario himself*

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>he has to self insert
>he doesn't effortlessly slide from avatar to avatar like they're hollow meat puppets waiting to be animated

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>bringing up meta shit when the arguments is obviously in context of the fictional world
The irony of calling someone else retarded when with this line of thinking you're pretty much saying that lovecraftian abominations are subhuman and therefore inferior to a mere human who cant do shit against them

This board can't even stick to thread subjects and will bite bait that are completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

Any Forums as a whole is populated mostly by people of average intelligence at best and aggressive anti-intellectualism. They substitute intelligence and intellectualism with a crude elitism founded upon a cynical contrarianism which is rooted in a shallow exploration of the subject in the main but more importantly in entry-level esoteric aspects of the subject, whose obscurity to the general public gives them a false sense of superiority in comprehension for being "in the know", unlike normie sheep.

The obsession is driven by a need for identity in order to provide a sense of fulfillment for an otherwise lacking life. This induces a zealotry of preposterous degree, partially fueling the unwarranted rampant hostility here, but all that is beside the point.

The point is that they take their surface level understanding as good enough, and never push for a real progress or development of the general understanding and narrative. The board knowledge becomes frozen in time and depth and always opens and ends the same way. You only very rarely get someone expertly well acquainted with the matters, who either provide ad hoc evaluations in the same flippant style of the general user that are difficult to recognize as genuine information, or else effortposts that go far too in depth beyond the capacity of the average user to comprehend and appreciate what's being said, so typically ignored or brusquely dismissed.

That creates an environment hostile to experts, whose contributions are made to seem unwelcome. Experts are usually professionals acutely aware of when they are wasting their time, and so they shall choose to spend less and less of it discoursing here, and so the overall trend to the lowest common denominator continues unabated.

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Considering both aestethics and stats, humans always just seem to be the superior choice
If this wasnt the case id consider playing other races

I wonder if any of those nerds read forgotten realm novels.

Humans invented all of those things. There is nothing greater than humans, and anything that we pretend is greater than humanity is ultimately just a fiction of the human mind, and thus not greater than us.

Correct. I can relate to wanting to fuck the females though.

>>bringing up meta shit when the arguments is obviously in context of the fictional world
Context of the fictional world is created by the Human mind and dictated by the Human mind, which is why Humanity always wins in said fictional worlds, and when it doesn't win it's because a Human dictated so ultimately yet again being God.
There is no irony in calling retarded someone who can neither argue meta, nor argue in favor of compelling or coercing people into playing something outside of their comfort zone because it would make you look like a retarded rapist which is why your retarded dev got so much vitriol for the stupid mentality you hold.

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Video games and RPGs are all about self-insertion. No human can actually role-play as something they're not, you still call back to your own experiences.

>strange color not-human with random spikes and horns glued on
>WOAAH SO COOL

why do people love the lion king so much if it's "impossible to relate to non human characters"? to me it seems like the writers are just coping and seething that they can't write decent non human characters or sell them to the audience in any way

I wanna fuck Krystal and Pone's though. Sally,Vanilla,Bunnie,Carmelita, but not rouge though fuck that skank

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you're both fucking delusional with an ego of human superiority beyond measurement, which is ultimately your downfall.

Children like being able to play as the aliens,undead,creatures etc. Adults do not

It's Hamlet with lions, You can easily strip away the lion windowdressing and still have a compelling human story.

I accept your surrender.
Those who attempt coercion of others, and then realize, too late, how fucking retarded and evil their position looks, and then attempt to do damage control with absolutely retarded and transparent mental gymnastics like you did; always were, always are, and always will be on the wrong and losing side of every argument.

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I have never seen the issue with, and will continue to not see the issue with playing as dedicated characters with their own backstories because no matter how hard I could ever want it, the character on the screen will never actually be me. Why should I care to impose myself on something I'm not?

>le human male fighter face

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>tfw too autistic to even understand the concept of relating to a character
Is the quality of fiction really increased that much if you can relate to the characters? I feel like I'm missing out.

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adults like the lion king
but that's my point, you can easily tell a compelling human story without having human main characters

>le non-human player face

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No you can't. Even most fictional non-bestial aliens, monsters, and "animal people" are just humans with superficial animal features, because they are being imagined by humans. Dragging in a load of fantasy races doesn't actually increase the number of stories you can tell, or the nature and quality of said stories.

This is something competent writers figure out pretty fucking early.

>No you can't
you literally admitted as much earlier by saying the lion king is a "compelling human story", you retarded mouthbreather. don't waste my time any further.

Go test your human superiority against a polar bear with only 9mm and 5.56 and come back with results

>Dragging in a load of fantasy races doesn't actually increase the number of stories you can tell, or the nature and quality of said stories.
QFT

Furries are so fucking hot, I wish more games had playable anthros.

>with only 9mm and 5.56
You do realize that propellant, type of tip of a bullet, and the length of a barrel compounded with rifling (the longer the rifling the bullet moves along the higher the centrifugal and kinetic energy is given to it to stabilize force-retention), are the determinants of power, and not the caliber itself, right? Which is why militaries now achieve large-caliber destructive power with calibers a third of the size by utilizing this fine physics.

Look I'm either going to self insert as a white man or play a cute little girl. Be grateful it's usually the earlier, unless I'm playing a Korean MMO where the classes are gender locked and my class is almost ALWAYS a loli. You are lucky I am a lolicon.

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You're clearly not getting it. It's a compelling human story because the animals aren't animals, they are humans superficially appearing as animals.

>if they dont look human they must be furry
Peak NPC thinking

Alienbros where are our games?

It's only about self insertion to people who don't have abstract thinking. There was a reason DnD only appealed to nerds originally and then after the new game rules that dumbed everything down did new players just made Mary/Gary stu self insert characters and didn't understand what the game was about.

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Play Carrion
Its pretty fun and short

"alien characters" in stories could be designed the exact same way, my point is that writers don't do this and focus on creating one dimensional caricatures instead of compelling "human" characters

no rifle owned by an average unexperienced gun owning American is going to kill a polar bear

I don't know, I guess I just find the idea of a garishly designed, clownish snowflake heterochromia OC to be a little embarrassing.

I know you'll bitch and moan no matter what, so why should I attempt to please you people? You know the truth. Half-elf? Not good enough. Elf? Not good enough. Drow? Not good enough. Tiefling? Not good enough.

>assuming
even human is good enough, what's not good is making a human that's literally you or worse, you but stronger

>Humans can't sympathize with non humans, says employee of company that made you cry for a deer 30 years ago.

Any rifle or gun of today owned by an average inexperienced gun owning American can kill a polar bear using today's modern bullets. Whether it actually does is nether a 0% nor a 100% case scenario, the same as with any experienced gun owner as well, and depend on where the bullet hits. It is also not possible to give a confident estimate whether the polar bear will run away scared from the sound alone, freeze in place, or continue onwards towards the shooter, depending on the bear since they are not a hivemind and depending on the shooter themselves and their distance from one and conditions.
All in all, you are hypothesizing from a standpoint of ignorance, not even knowing the basics of what destructive power modern bullets are capable of from igniter types alone which give them the kinetic and penetration power.

yeah bro a polar bear will definitely die before mauling you to the death against someone who isn't experienced at hunting at all

It has happened before during expeditions yes, polar bears not attacking inexperienced shooters on expeditions and instead dying from a well placed shot whether it was lucky or indented for the area.
Do you not even know what the power of bullets is today you retard? They can run through and entire car save for the engine, and even that isn't assured.

People who write good interesting characters that are humans soon realize that all the non-humans are just shitty writers trying to use quirks in place of actual content to make character interesting. If you can't write a good human character, you can't write a good character period. If you can write a good human character, you have no real reason to bother with non-humans.

then who are you?

Impossibe and unlikely are two diffrent things. If mr. inexperenced hunter hits the right spot that bear is dead

>with only 9mm and 5.56
Why can't I use an AR-15?

He's right about that last part though. Unless the game drastically changes based on how you build your character then there's not much point, especially if the story is based on the default anyway.

There is never "no point" to writing things a certan way. If you wanna tell a story about ayys being invaded by Humans, or feral cats around a lake doing some good old tribal warfare, or a robot fighting for everlasting peace, then that's point enough to do it.

I simply am.

if everybody were as much of a fucking cuck like those "humans can only relate to humans" faggots we wouldn't have those interesting stories

Human characters give us the strongest thing to identify with. That's why 99% of all our stories are about humans. Humans are the default and for good reason. Calling that "dull" and wanting to "subvert" it just to be different makes it pretty clear you are either a self-hating misanthrope or have no other options for making your already dull characters interesting.

>china doesn't like non-humans because culture
things were much more creative back when there was a minority limit in media

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that doesn't refute either my or the other guy's point about non-human stories