/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.) and your country.

>NEWS
New CPU and GPU generations later this year

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105
Budget Gaming: i3 12100/F > R5 5500
Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400/F+cooler
Multicore: R9 5900X/5950X, i7 12700/F
Best Gaming: R7 5800X3D
k CPUs are not recommended

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used GTX 1060/1070, RX 470/580
1080p: RX 6600/XT
1440p: RX 6700 XT, RTX 3060ti
2160p: RX 6800 XT, RTX 3080, RX 6900 XT

>RAM
Minimum: 2x 8GB DDR4 3200CL16/3600CL18
Recommended:
DDR4: 4x 8GB DDR4 3600CL16 (any rank) or 2x dual-rank 16GB DDR4 3600CL16
DDR5: 2x 16GB 5600MHz Kingston

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Silver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)
Take into account transient spikes when sizing your PSU to your GPU, especially with Nvidia
cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
rtings.com/monitor/
pcmonitors.info/
displayninja.com/buying-guide/

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Poorfag here. If most of the more "demanding" stuff I'll be doing with my PC is more CPU heavy than GPU heavy (emulation, badly coded japanese pc ports, not modern big budget western gayms), is a 3060 12gb a fine choice? Would a 3070 8gb be enough of an improvement over it for the things I mentioned above to justify the extra cost and less memory (I was intending on getting into Blender at some point, but by the the time I get good enough at it to matter, I imagine we'll be a few generations ahead and I'll have money to upgrade again anyway).

Already asked a similar question but I'm thinking about it again and want another opinion or two. Almost done with picking the parts out for my (first ever) build.

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3070 ti if you can, especially with the current price cuts

>power outage
>when computer turns back on, display is all grey
>put gpu into new motherboard
>it works again
any theories on what happened? i didnt see any burns on the motherboard or gpu pcb

This is why you buy Seasonic.

It would cost me at least 30% more than a 3060 12gb in my region. Would the potential performance improvement in the things I mentioned really be worth it?

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The vram on the 3060ti (3070-lite) and 3070 are "faster" but I'm not certain anything takes advantage of that as we're only just now seeing how OSs bottleneck storage to memory speeds, if the game engine is even trying to take advantage of it. But higher vram will help with multitasking, say if your browser is eating up 2gb of vram to render 4channel and youtube, but you still want to do something else with the gpu. And some games just reserve whatever vram they can get.
But I wonder if anyone ever addressed this issue? Previously when the 1660 super came out with faster vram, it was performing slightly better than the 1660ti.

Usually, partner 3060 cards cost the same as Nvidia's own 3060ti Founder's Edition, so that's ideal if you can find one.

>so that's ideal if you can find one.
Probably not, I'm in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.
nz.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/pD8bt6,GzgFf7/
Of these two would you say one is a better purchase than the other?

I'm so fucking glad I'm not a poorfag anymore
>Just look at top parts
>Click buy
>Put together
No fucking guessing about bang for buck, whatever. When you can just drop 3 grand on a build and not even care, I bet that's how bill gates feels when he spends 30 million dollars on an island to rape kids at.

Why do people recommend Nvidia over AMD for gaming when AMD drivers are better now and FSR 2.0 is good enough?

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I miss the days when you had slots for days and now you at best get 2 16x slots and maybe, if you're a good boy a 1x with a little, itsie, bitse, cut so you *don't* have to buy a riser. Good boyo!

Is lower CAS latency on RAM just always a better option if the clock speeds are the same? There seems to be a pretty big range, is CAS16 low enough?

The ironic thing is that as chipsets and CPUs get more lanes you somehow get less available slots.
People make the argument that nobody needs slots anymore, but I think the reason is a little more insidious.

nvidia works with newer games first (because that's part of their marketing campaign)
next build, hopefully soon, is an intel/amd because i'm one of those retards who refuses to use windows

Alright, this should be just about my last time inflicting myself upon these threads until I manage to fuck something up during assembly and come here in a panic

pcpartpicker.com/list/ZhNTFg

The cooler is $123 on Amazon right now and the monitor is in stock at Best Buy for $219 (basically a decent placeholder; if and when the G7 goes on sale later this year I'm getting one) for a total of ~$1910 pre-tax. Any suggestions?

Yes, I am keeping the HDD; I have 3TB+ of weebshit mouldering on old HDDs and I want them on a new drive. Yes, I am keeping the 12600k; the $30 for ~12% better performance over the 12600 is worth it to me and I like having an integrated GPU just in case Yes, a 750W PSU is overkill but better safe than sorry for $20.

because AMD driver on windows filters NPC or they want CUDA feature

I think it's worth waiting 4-6 months to see what the new cards are like. You'll also be able to get a 30 series card for a bit less too. As for 3060 (12 gb) Blender performance vs a 3070, it depends. Realistically, as a hobbyist, it's unlikely you'll use more than 8gb of VRAM in Blender starting out. The 3070 also renders significantly faster than the 3060 (anywhere between 40% to 60%) according to tests done in this video: youtube.com/watch?v=cP0ifLyDxXM. This means that if you're animating a bunch of frames, you'll get significantly more seconds of animation done on the 3070 compared to the 3060. The caveat is that if your scene uses more than 8gb of VRAM, your 3070 will be significantly slower than the 3060. The price difference is about 200 CAD too.

If you're animating a lot, I think that's a fair price increase to pay. Personally though, I'd wait to see what the next gen is like (because it's so close). If it's shit, just get a 30 series card for a decent discount. If it's good, then you might be able to pay as much as you would for a 3070 now, but get a card notably better than it.

You want higher bandwidth frequency along with lower cas latency. The general rule is that decreasing your CL by 2 is the equivalent of adding 400mhz. Viceversa increasing your CL by 2 is taking away 400mhz. 3200cl16 has the same latency as 3600cl18 for example.

4000 cards aren't coming till 2023, huh?

you'd expect a release to coincide with new AMD/intel CPUs so they sell more cards (new systems) and that's next month.

I thought the 4080 and 4070 were coming in the late Fall? Did they say the cards have been delayed until 2023?

I don't know, but rumor is nvidia delayed stuff cause crypto died compared to before.

My current system is kind of shitting the bed so I don't really feel like waiting, especially if the new stuff ends up getting delayed or something. Isn't there the possibility of other stuff going up in price again if I wait, too?

I haven't had anybody call me a complete retard for considering a 3060 yet so it sounds like it should be fine for my use case.

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Going from an Phenom IIx4 955 to an Optiplex 7010 MT (I7-3770) w/32GB ram and Geforce GTX 1650 OC. Didn't really need to upgrade but I had the money so what the hell you know... Sides now I can ogle Claire and Jill to my hearts content. Yeah I could've gone much "faster" but I wanted to reuse my old ram and SSD to save money and like I said I didn't really need to upgrade anyway. Old system will be kept largely intact (minus the PSU/ram/and SSD) and placed in storage. Hey it did me well for a long time. Be a shame to toss it.

I need help getting new monitors.
It seems like 144hz is blatantly superior. Is there a good budget option or should I dump a lot of money on some decent monitors?

What's the best 4k 165hz+ 27" OLED monitor out there ATM?

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