I’m trying to understand the mind of a liberal. Can you help me...

I’m trying to understand the mind of a liberal. Can you help me? I’m not being sarcastic at all I just really want to know, from a leftist point of view, what is the end goal? Do you want every single person in the US to die or just conservatives? Do you want the country completely run by people from other countries? Do you want the government to arrest people who have opinions the government doesn’t agree with? What about guns, only the government gets them? Do you want a country where rape of children is legal or discrimination against white people is protected by the government?

I want to understand the chaos. I’m trying to capture a vision of the world you want, and I’m only here to listen, not argue. Tell me what you want to see happen to the USA

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Not a liberal, but one of their biggest hypocrisies is what happens when the Democrats aren’t in power. Did they want Trump to censor them for speaking out against the government? Did they want Trump to take everyone’s guns? Did they want the Republican congress to get rid of the filibuster? If they used their power to increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices will they be ok when a future Republican congress increases it to 13?

I'll give you a reply, but a free bump first.

>From a leftist point of view, what is the end goal?
Rational leftists want people to be free to do what they want, but they don't want people to suffer for simply being born.

> Do you want every single person in the US to die or just conservatives?
Rational leftists don't want anyone to die, but they hate conservatives because most conservatives do not want to hear differing opinions. Becoming leftist is the consequence of hearing a bunch of opinions you may disagree with and understanding that's still coming from a person

>Do you want the country completely run by people from other countries?
Not a single person wants this. Lefts and rights hate corruption. Insane rights what the country run by Putin, insane lefts want to be ran by Europe.

> Do you want the government to arrest people who have opinions the government doesn’t agree with?
Only insane leftists think you should be arrested for this. Most would say that you are free to say what you want but must suffers in the court of social consequences

>What about guns, only the government gets them?
Most leftists want heavy vetting on who gets guns, but I will admit a lot of them think nobody should own an assault rifle. I say assault rifles are fine so long as we have actual resources for someone's mental health so they don't run in and shoot up a school.

>Do you want a country where rape of children is legal or discrimination against white people is protected by the government?
Not a single person wants this and I don't know why you even asked this as a question. Even hardcore leftists want Ghislaine to admit every single person that visit the island

They want to help, simply put.

They view government as a fix-all solution, while in reality it’s a very specialised tool.

They also value security above freedom, they’ll therefore get neither but they are too short sited to see that.

In the end they are just useful idiots.

As a classical liberal, them highjacking the ‘liberal’ labels makes my blood boil.

Shit bait. Try harder OP.

Rational liberals and 90s Democrats are all dead or unelected now. Keep filling in more positions with more koolaid hair affirmative action hires, though, hilarious!

Both "Sides" and please keep in mind only complete retards/shills are actually for ONE side's views ONLY

want what they think is best for everyone at large,
If you're a dipshit hillbilly, you think that means what's best for ONLY you and your neighbors, fuck all those millions of city dwellers you can live without.

and if you're a californian in a city of millions, you want the VERY cheap (relatively) programs that would honestly help ALL of the people pushed through.

(Both sides are being lied to about everything, both sides are good people, I have no solution other than kill ALL the politicians.... literally everyone currently involved should be banned from ever being involved again, putting a salary cap and 10000% more stringent tax reporting on politicals would probably help also)

(Noone should get to vote without military service, or like having ALREADY paid 100,000 in taxes, you don't contribute, you don't get a say)

Yes to all. I want the worst possible outcome for everyone and everything, including myself.
I am ontologically evil and just want you to suffer for literally no reason. Next question.

I am so proud of my /beople,

before the shills can get in here and make this a Biden v Trump discussion,

all the opinions seem very grounded, sane, and similar

build the guillotines!

>from a leftist point of view, what is the end goal?
Safety, Freedom, Tolerance. Representation and equity for people. Security for the nation-state and democracy, ideally without corruption from lobbying etc.

> Do you want every single person in the US to die or just conservatives?
I don't want a single person to die. I don't know a single leftist who wants "all" conservatives dead, or all people.

> Do you want the country completely run by people from other countries?
I dont want that, and I dont know a single leftist who does either.
A lot would like to see the country represented equally - that is, a government where it is, or is very nearly 50/50 male/female, where the percentage of races, and religions are representative of the entire country. That does mean black, hispanic, indigenous American AND whites alike. It means Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Atheists, etc.

>Do you want the government to arrest people who have opinions the government doesn’t agree with?
No. Firmly not.
Most leftists want reduction in government surveillance and control - for example De Santis' recent bill requiring all student educators to register their political affiliation with the state is absolutely abhorrent.

>What about guns, only the government gets them?
Some leftists want more guns, some want no guns at all.
Most would say only giving them to government is a bad idea.
Personally, banning guns would be impossible and insane. there's too many out there. But a "well-regulated" system with stronger repercussions for those who who use them irresponsibly is overdue.

>Do you want a country where rape of children is legal
Absolutely not.

>or discrimination against white people is protected by the government?
Of course not. What "leftists" want is to end discrimination against ALL people - White, Black, Hispanic, LBGT, etc.

your idea of what the left is is totally divorced from all reality. Put Fox News on mute, for god's sake

The classical liberal cause is dead in every country, including the states and mine. It has been dead since the Great Depression.

I’ve given up, most of my fellow freedom lovers did too.

We’ve gone so far away from what made the western world great that I’m not sure we can even turn back, it would be hard to undo a century of mistakes in one election cycle.

>Only insane leftists think you should be arrested for this. Most would say that you are free to say what you want but must suffers in the court of social consequences
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So, canceled for having an opinion that goes against leftist views.
You can have that opinion but now you can't feed your family.
Does this compute at all?

I hope to reach across the aisle to join you in the coming revolution

Get everyone out, and don't let anybody over 50 in office. The people making decisions should have to live with those decisions for the next 30 years, they shouldn't be in danger of dying from natural causes tomorrow

You come across as being a giant faggot, OP. Whether (or even what) you understand doesn't matter

>Do you want a country where rape of children is legal
pretty sure that's republicans and esp. tennesseeans brah

Well, depends on the opinion
If feeding your family requires you to advocate for the extermination or imprisonment of a group of people, or implying they shouldn't have rights, then you should probably fuck off to somewhere with sharia law

I lost like 19 families members to your wars now pay me

I consider myself a middle of the isle liberal. The goal is to get a stern hold of both the government and the plebs. The government needs to get out of people's business and let them have their individualities and culturalisms. Part of that requires that the mayonnaise brand monopoly of white priviledged gerontocrats gets broken up and more broad spectrum representation has a chance. On the flip side, plebs need to learn their fucking place. This consumerism shit has got to stop and this corporate capitaliostic free-for-all has to end. Wealth needs to be redistributed more fairly to the middle class workers ACTUALLY doing the fucking work. This redistribution should come int he form of social welfare programs, infrastructure renovations that would allow for free BASIC utilities like electricity and fucking clean water. ...not only ion America, but the whole fucking world. Government subsidies for dead end projects needs to stop. Bailouts for corporations needs to stop so we can let them crash and burn, thus opening the way for mom and pop shops again. It also levels out the competitive market aspects of the "free market", though I also endorse government controlled industries for the protection of said free market. All of the god damned regulatory agencies need an asswhooping overhaul to get the standards and limits solidified in accordance with scientifically SOUND statistics. There's so much more. No, citizens need guns to prevent tyranny on multiple levels. No, white people don't have to die, but they are gonna have to eat a dick and suffer some racism as karma. No, hijabs should not be able to just come over and take government offices. By the people, OF the people, FOR the people. Pajeets that have lived here for generations should be seen and treated like the Americans they are, thus also qualified (assuming) for offices as well.

Such things, however, should be carefully monitored by the CIA to watch for long-term sleepers and elaborate insurgency plots.

tl;dr fuck whitey's feelings, the new age demands new methods.

Fuck you and your karma. As expected you’re as racist as the Klan.

Where's all the shit in this thread being pasted from?

>Do you want every single person in the US to die or just conservatives?
Neither.
>Do you want the country completely run by people from other countries?
I actually have a really big problem with how out of control immigration has gotten.
>Do you want the government to arrest people who have opinions the government doesn’t agree with?
Only in extreme cases.
>What about guns, only the government gets them?
I don't support gun ownership for citizens.
>Do you want a country where rape of children is legal
As long as the child is a willing participant.
>discrimination against white people is protected by the government?
No that would be racism.