The marines have flamethrowers and fuel to last 900 octillion years, after that its handguns and boots. The fight takes place on an infinite flat field, obviously not in this universe so no black holes and shit. The marines start in 1 group and the ants come from all directions (by foot) untill 1 team is 100% dead. No death by hunger, dehydration, old age or disease but the marines still need sleep. No reproduction either.
Ants can't organise. Warfare is all about organising your troops and their timing. This couldve been an interesting scenario if you chose something other than ants.
Henry Evans
Ants win
Kayden Ortiz
>ants can't organise are you serious?
as much as I would like the marines to win, it's the ants. the fact that the marines need sleep, and that they would probably start killing themselves after a while, and the sheer amount that is Graham's number, means the ants would win. if the marines had infinite flamethrowers, then it would be the marines.
Noah Gonzalez
And what happens when they run out of fuel?
Nolan Roberts
>Grab flamethrower >Spread fuel creating a ring of fire >Sleep
Jayden Lee
More like if the marines had infinite and indestuctible flamethrowers, infinite skill and infinite morale they would win. Accidents alone will ensure the marines lose eventually.
Ethan Stewart
Both would collapse into black holes
Asher Turner
the ants because there are no identities, personalities, fears, hopes etc they merely co-operate as a single unit towards the objective without regard for their own individual welfare
Nolan Sullivan
Can you even fathom how ridiculously large grahams number is compared to a few googolplexes? Let's say in your infinite flat field gravity somehow isn't a thing, so no black holes that would instantly form from the mass of both soldiers alone and of course the near infinite amount of ants: For every soldier, there's a near infinite amount of ants to battle for every single one of them, and they wouldn't stand a chance.
Isaiah Stewart
because of grahams number you are dealing with an infinite number of ants so the googleplex of marines will eventually get crushed by the weight of living and dead ants.
its like an infinite spawn on a tower defense map. eventually you will lose.
David Garcia
read the rules
Same for you, except you also used a term like "near infinite" No matter how big of a number you think of there are still and infinite number of numbers bigger than it, come up with a better comparison.
Kayden Russell
take one googolplex. represent it with a quark, or the smallest subparticle you can think of. now try to form something like googolplex^googolplex^googolplex^googolplex.... you'd run out of subparticles in the whole universe to come even close to what grahams number is.
No way the marines would win under any circumstances.
Isaiah Stewart
The marines will win. >Ants aren't intelligent >The battle will occur in an infinitely long flag plain. >Either the ants form around the marines in a massive dune-like shape or they move towards marines one by one. >If the ants choose the latter, the marines will obviously win as they could march over them for however long it will be. >OP already specified that marines can't die from hunger, thirst, old age or exhaustion. >If the ants choose the former, they will still lose as this dune wouldn't form orderly and it won't be mobile enough to pose any real threat to the marines. >The marines could kill these stacked ants by punching them for trillions of years.
Worth pointing out that no one said the ants have any clue what they're there to do in the first place. I would think many would concentrate on doing ant shit like trying to build a nest
Nathaniel Hughes
You cant even form a single googolplex with the smallest subparticles in our universe, come up with a better comparison.
Cooper Perry
Oh we are taking intelligence into play here?
Now the marines are utterly fucked. Because Graham's number of ants means more than a few thousand or even millions or trillions of octillion years of battle, even with infinite fuel for the flame thrower, the ants will just continue being ants, but the intelligent marines would go mad after a few aeons top and just shoot themselves in the head to end their never ending torture.
Ethan Garcia
>If the ants choose the latter, the marines will obviously win as they could march over them for however long it will be. And when they have to sleep? >OP already specified that marines can't die from hunger, thirst, old age or exhaustion. Did not mention exhaustion, infact OP specifically said they need to sleep >If the ants choose the former, they will still lose as this dune wouldn't form orderly and it won't be mobile enough to pose any real threat to the marines. Except when the mountain the form gets so big it engulfs all the marines, they cant even run away as the ants are coming from all directions. >The marines could kill these stacked ants by punching them for trillions of years. Octillion is already larger than trillion, but to kill all these ants with fists would basically take an eternity.
You sir are an idiot.
Cameron Powell
OP did say the ants are coming from all directions, implying that the dont just wander around aimlessly, but even if they did it would only make it more difficult for the marines, no way can they find all the ants on an infinite field.
Nolan Bell
>The fight takes place on an infinite flat field, obviously not in this universe so no black holes and shit.
>Oh shit, gravity doesn't work. >Ants form unguided clouds as their little legs push them off from various surfaces, >Marines start flying the instant they pull the trigger. >Aiming becomes impossible >Ants evolve floating hives kept together by sacrificing workers ants to push other ants and construction material together in the air. >Marine becomes distracted as their flamethrowers are functionally jetpacks. >The First Annual Flammenwerfer Air Acrobatics Race is held.
Jaxson Adams
Shut up faggot. I am right. Fuck all of you. USA will prevail over anything and everything.
Jack Wood
I thought it was a pretty nice comparison. Maybe you need to read it again? You also forced me to do this:
As you point out a googolplex is without a doubt incredibly large, it’s 10^10^100 or 10^googol which is a one followed by a googol zeroes, a googol is already a larger number than the number of atoms they’re are in the observable universe, so you need more space than there is in the observable universe just to write a googolplex in its full digital form. And that’s just writing it down, not the number itself…
A googolplex marines would be an incredibly powerful army indeed.
Just imagine seeing a googolplex of these
But it doesn’t matter here, Graham’s number is on a completely different scale than a googolplex. It is so large that I can’t even write it down in a proper notation, the process of getting this number revolves around arrows, but just know that even if you were to multiply a googolplex times a googolplex a million times, barely any change would have been made to the original size difference of a googolplex and Graham’s number. It wouldn’t even be in the same “universe” as 1% of Graham’s number. And hell, I’m still probably hugely underestimating how large Graham’s number is. You might as well be comparing it to the number one.
The marines would be immediately crushed by the sheer number of ants, even if I had a googolplex nukes and exploded them all at once, it would only kill like .000000000000000000000000000000000000…(an unfathomable amount of zeroes in between)…000001% of the ants.
The marines don’t have even a remote prayer here. Ants stomp with ease, and that’s a huge understatement by the way.