Well anons, it's official. i'm now 20 years old as of 6/28. pretty upset that I'm no longer a "teen"...

I turned 20 at the start of last month. I began my 20th year on this planet falling out with my family I live with. We're not on speaking terms anymore. Great start am I right?
Wishing you the best OP. So far I'm exactly the same person now as I was when I was 19, only slightly more depressed and nihilistic. I wouldn't be mad if I died in my sleep tonight.
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1. make good dude friends and keep them for life
2. get a shitty job at a place with lots of QT coworkers and bang them all
3. Invest in yourself instead of focusing on stocks or being extremely frugal
4. don't get addicted to anything (including porn)

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Happy Birthday
I'm trying to think if I could go back in time 20 years and tell myself something (at your age). Really, I don't know. I worked my butt off in school and at work, and make about 120k/year in engineering. I don't like it... it's a life-sucking career... I always enjoyed more hands on stuff. I think a trade would have been better... work with hands for a while, then move more into supervisory role when you get older -- would be my suggestion. Maybe try to get a job at a municipality / city, doing something essential like water or sanitary utility operations work in a union environment with a defined benefit plan. I don't think I'd recommend getting a pile of student loan debt to anyone --- and then only if you're going to train in something technical that will pay well and has good employment prospects. Sorry for the mental diarrhea... I hope you find something good.

>2. get a shitty job at a place with lots of QT coworkers and bang them all
worst advice ever
dont shit where you work, get a job that pays well enough and has a few coworkers you can bullshit with to make the time go by faster

true. setting myself up atm by building up savings and paying off college debt first thing. luckily I have a stable household in which my parents give me plenty of privacy for now, so, that's good. I'll have something to look forward to, I'm sure.

sorry fren. hope things get better. what happened?

I'm not quite sure how to make those great lifelong friends a lot of people seem to have. at the moment I only have one friend group, they're all a bit older than me and we go to bars and clubs and shit (as I don't get carded often because I look older than I am).

very interesting that you detailed how little you like engineering. I feel like I'm in the same boat. I want the 6 figure job though. Right now I'm looking towards something like cybersecurity or something similar, just dont know if I wanna do tech for the rest of my life

>lots of people say it's pretty much downhill from here.
You're fine. 30's are generally the best years of a person's life. You've got plenty of time.

Get a hobby that other people find cool. You might only meet women in loud clubs or classrooms or whatever now, but at some point in your future you will be expected to be able to make small talk for HOURS on end, even all day. Usually business meetings, client dinners, etc., even regular dates.

Get a hobby that people find interesting to talk about because it will make everyone feel like they have an "in" to talking with you and that will make everyone more comfortable, including you.

Or find a hobby you enjoy and find a way to filter it to sound interesting to other people.
Don't spend years of your life doing something for a bit of small talk.

Some examples of this are skiing, photography, even just raising your kids. A ton of people love to go outdoor hiking/skiing, etc. and will want to talk to you about their latest trips to wherever. Photography lets you pull up a picture on your phone once in a while and chat for a minute or 2 about it. And people with kids will talk to you about your kids when they have nothing else to say. Things like that.

can you maybe name some hobbies? I'd love to do something like racing, I've specifically gotten into formula 1 recently, but that shit is expensive. i've also kind of gotten into the ranch hand shit lately, but that pay is god awful. I don't really have any hobbies. I don't even really play video games anymore because I don't have many online friends and singleplayer games are a bit hard for me to get into. I get bored easily with those.

>what happened?
We just don't see eye to eye on things. I am basically from a completely different culture from my mom and younger sister (obviously; I post on Any Forums and they don't.)
Went out to celebrate my birthday and brought them along because I hate being alone, and about 4 or 5 years of pent up rage with them as well as the rest of the world came to a head. I genuinely want to punch the shit out of both of them; they infuriate me and seemingly do it on purpose, because they always seem to know just what to do to piss me off. Anymore, I just stay out of the house, either working extra hours at my job I hate and really should leave (whole other can of worms) or just driving to random parks and listening to music. I'm only happy when I'm going 80mph and listening to metal.
Sorry to vent, don't want to take over your thread.
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This is also great advice. To put what I said in context, though, there are plenty of situations where the conversation is meant to remain professional for hours on end, so if your hobby is "watching anime in between streaming Elden Ring" then you might be more comfortable discussing something else on the side.
See but then ignore it because racing is a far more interesting hobby than anything I listed.

Above all just being passionate about your hobby will make it interesting for people to discuss with you. The entire point is to make the other party feel like it's ok to talk openly with you about their own lives.

My 30s have been the best years in my life

ah man, some people are just assholes. my grandfather for example, can be a complete dick. there's something wrong with this or this isn't perfect. I think it comes from a good place but sometimes he just doesn't have a fucking filter.

regardless, if they're being little bitches, no point in having them in your life, right? it is what it is. sucks, but maybe it's for the better yk?

Once you're out of college, you have to make a conscious effort to keep and maintain friends if you want any. That means calling them up when you want to talk, visiting them when it makes sense, and even just sending a message that you'd "like to catch up sometime" when you can. Nobody is going to do this for you and it's completely different than every experience with friends before you graduate college.

yeah I'll have to find something I enjoy. Maybe I can part-time work on a ranch or something. I enjoy working with animals a lot. the shit won't pay well but I bet I could meet some cool guys on the way and pick up a buckle or two. who knows. skiing also sounds fun, but I also live in the armpit of texas so... there's that lol I'll have to travel for it. all the more reason to do it, though.

How so fren? Kids? Independence, socially or financially? What made it so great, and how'd ya get there?

Learn to take criticism, especially while working. Become absolutely immune to taking it personally when it's about work.

I've been manic depressive my whole life, only learned and medicated a year ago. now i'm 30.
Don't forget you can quit your job. The next one is almost always better at least for a little while.

Also, get into audio books. Discworld series will give you allot of worldly insight. Also learn to use tor and torrents.

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true. gotta talk up my friend to see if he wants to do smth this saturday, haven't met up with em in a while. The problem is, is that they almost always end up drinking and im just not into doing that every single weekend. don't get me wrong, illegally drinking at a bar is pretty fun but not every week. unfortunately I don't have any other friend group as of yet, but I'll be going in-person to college this year (lack of online classes) so... we'll see. and for work, I'm currently in a small business with me and like 1 chick close to my age, single mother, and 1 old dude who's my boss.