Random announcement: The colonization of Mars is most likely impossible

Random announcement: The colonization of Mars is most likely impossible.

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Why?

Wrong.

Just have a look to the channel "Common Sense Skeptic" on youtube. There's also Thunderf00t's channel.There will never be any colonization of Mars. Elon Musk is a total con man.

Sending small groups of people to set up a semi-permanent research base should be fine.

Musk city will not happen. All resources required to keep people alive would have to come from Earth and the benefits would not be enough to convince people to pay for it.

>Terraforming would take hundreds of thousands of years of active work and you can't guarantee people would maintain an interest for that long. Also, no planet will ever be as good to us as Earth.

It has already been colonized user, until the war but peeps are currently living underground. Please don’t go shit on their rock. You’ll loose your life once they come topside. Remember they stop aging at 35 and are way fucking taller snd bigger then us.

This is known by any individual with more than two brain cells to rub together.

Thunderf00t and CSS are both retards.

Imagine being a fertilized egg in a freezer and being grown on Mars (by robots or whatever) and you are the only one who is not retarded from genetic deformities

>All resources required to keep people alive would have to come from Earth
Nope. Mars has water and oxygen.

>and the benefits would not be enough to convince people to pay for it.
Elon Musk can pay for it. Doesn’t need anyone else.

>Terraforming would take hundreds of thousands of years of active work and you can't guarantee people would maintain an interest for that long
We don’t need to terraform.

>Also, no planet will ever be as good to us as Earth.
not with that pussy attitude.

>Sending small groups of people to set up a semi-permanent research base should be fine.

It takes about 6 months to get to Mars. 6 months in microgravity weakens the heart and bone density. Not to mention that Mars gravity is about 1/3 of that of Earth. No telling the effects of that environment on humans for an extended period of time.

Mars doesn't have a thick atmosphere or magnetic field, so the people will be constantly bombarded with radiation.

You can't grow anything on Mars without terraforming, so all equipment would need to come from Earth. For something semi-permanent, it needs to be self-sustaining.

why makes you think there aren't people there already

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wrong, there are already bases on Mars and have been since the 1950's, search secret space program.

We aren't even remotely close to colonizing our own ocean, and we don't need spaceships to get there. When there's a permenantly inhabitable, 100% self-sufficient colony at the bottom of the ocean, let's talk.

What do you mean?

That we do not, as of yet, have the proper technology (or other means) to do it? Yes, it's true.

That it is somehow physically impossible and will never be done? Nope.

I wonder what the deal with this stay-on-Earth-thing is. Is it some kind of a counter-culture? Like, since the previous generation thought it could be done, it's now the current generation's duty to reject it as a gesture of teenager rebellion? Or is it another "I don't want to see the world change"? Or maybe it's Christians raising their heads again?

actually setting up a colony?
likely do-able
the hard part is actually getting people there on the ~9 month one-way journey without them
>going insane
>killing each other
>radiation from being in space too long
>muscle atrophy from being in space too long
>vision problems from being in space too long

not to mention that ultimately, nothing like this will ever happen unless it's somehow profitable.
we'll honestly and most likely have robotic asteroid mining long before we have a colony on Mars.

its more feasible to have a base on the Moon
at least the Moon is decently close, its a short trip, its close enough that it could be useful for telecommunications and it can be mined for Helium-3 which we're desperately running short on.
not to mention that a Moon base will be essential for later space missions further out into the solar system (lower gravity so it's much much easier to launch a mission from the Moon than from Earth)

Humanity has an extremely retarded plan
The correct thing would be to have machinery to make lakes and bioengineer plant life for these lakes. That would both give the planet a start and prove that we are capable of moving ahead

>You can't grow anything on Mars without terraforming
Hydroponics, nigger

It would be easier to clean up the death and make it less of a shithole. Lol

It's possible to do, but it would be mind-blowingly expensive, not to mention dangerous.

Or, perhaps, it has to do with a modicum of sensibility. We are adapted to this planet, not to Mars.

You don't say.

Lakes require an atmosphere many orders of magnitude denser than Mars has.

It's not the lack of ability to stay under the ocean; it's the lack of will. But the closest thing we have are nuclear submarines, and they purify their own water and air, and the limiting factor is food supply. To solve the food supply problem you could theoreticall send down "support submarines" with their own ecologies, capable of growing food.

The challenges in colonizing the ocean is withstanding underwater pressures. The challenges in colonizing Mars is getting cost of payload to Mars surface low enough such that you can send a lot of modules, build a large enough city to leverage economies of scale etc.

Solve cost of payload to Mars, and like 95% of the challenge is already done.

Sure they are. Both have scientific degrees and are more than able to do the math. The Starship just can't work. This is a scam. but you can vest your dogecoins in the venture if you feel so inclined.