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>no friends
>no social circle
>5 foot 6 manlet
>not ugly
>nice athletic shape
>love hiking
>frequent pool halls
>just bought a guitar to learn something new
How can I meet women without using dating apps? I've been doing this self improvement shit for nearly a year and want to get myself out there.

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Just put yourself out there. Do the things that you love to do and don't be afraid to approach other people who are also doing those things. Start by making a few friends. Keep it simple and see where things go.

Not having friends doesn’t mean people won’t like you.
Not being ugly doesn’t make you attractive.
Being in shape doesn’t make you desirable.
Hiking is just a hobby, not a personality trait.
Playing pool doesn’t make you sociable.
Buying a guitar doesn’t make you interesting.

You’ve built a persona with the intention of attracting women, but it sounds like you’re just buying shit or doing basic hobbies. You need to grow up a bit.

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What activities would you suggest.
I'm just open to trying to shit as it makes me happy but it's a temporary high that goes away soon after because I'm alone with no friends or a gf

Do you have an outlet to release your internal frustration? Men need to utilize their testosterone. Have you tried powerlifting?

Women don’t like men who vie for the attention of women. Women like men who are doing fine without them and can face the storm alone. I’m not saying you should become a gym bro, but if you’re just pent up and sitting around waiting for loneliness to go away but not actually tearing yourself apart, how will you ever grow?

Gym. There’s no high like being powerful.

I have a solid workout routine, I have a nicely equipped gym at work that consistently go to on my breaks and lunches it helped a lot but as I said it was a temporary high, I still push myself to stick to my routine but it's not enough. My goal is 6 pack abs, I'm close

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Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym. I’m talking REAL strength. Powerlifting.

Also, is your goal walking through life impressing women, or do you just want friends? Because it sounds like you don’t play games, or a part of any clubs.

I don’t know you, but it sounds like you need to feel like a man and be recognized as such. Women shouldn’t be your end goal, because there’s over like 5 billion of them. Your goal should be recognizing your greatness. Success is doing a bunch of small things really well, not one big thing masterfully. Buying instruments, going to halls, living a routined life, or hiking is expected behavior.

Christ dude you dress like a 22 yr old college freshman at a 2003 high school party

The kinds of activities you are into. Hiking, pools, or whatever else you enjoy doing. Meeting people with the same interests is the best way to make friends and eventually find a partner.

Learn another language, or even a few phrases. It makes you interesting.

I understand abs are mostly diet but focusing ab work makes them stick out a lot more quicker. I want friends and a relationship, what types of clubs would you suggest?
>Your goal should be recognizing your greatness. Success is doing a bunch of small things really well, not one big thing masterfully
That's why I've been doing this self improvement trying new shit and trying to get in top shape but that's not getting me any women but it's expected behavior as you say.
Those are regular fit jeans with a blue t short what's the problem? My jeans were hanging. Bit low I buckled it up after the pic
So far those activities have gotten me nowhere, just temporarily numbs my depression
I speak english and Spanish, I am learning Arabic because I have interest in visiting Egypt soon.

What's wrong with meeting women on dating apps? Most of my friends were met on tinder. If someone isn't socially compatible with you, feel free to fuck and dump. You'll find people worth being around on there if you keep swiping. Plus, going on dates every other day is genuinely the best social training you can get. You can't learn how to make friends without getting tossed into the deep end.

From what I hear dating apps will kill your self esteem with the way women treat them. I also am shit at taking pictures

His advice doesn't apply to the majority of men who date online.

Unless you're shooting to date exclusively 8s and higher, you'll be fine. Most people's problem is that they grossly overestimate how attractive they are, especially when there's a hundred guys just as attractive and witty as you lining up to get laid first. The trick is to be in good shape, have good pics, a funny bio, and a friendly but endearing opener. At that point, all you've gotta do is not be a vitriolic retard in the DMs, and you'll get numbers and snaps.

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How can I get good pictures for dating app?

Again, this advice doesn't apply to the majority. As you've pointed out a bunch of men are looking for women with various levels of attractiveness. The issue isn't as much as the conversation (though that is a problem), the issue is matching.

Look happy, approachable, and as fit as possible. If you've got muscle definition, include a pic of you with a pump in front of a CLEAN full body mirror. Pics are way easier to do if you go out with friends. If you don't, you'll have to find opportunities to take them. Once you start going on dates, start taking pics with your dates or ask them to take pics of you. These will be golden because as long as you're having a good time, they'll be an authentic indicator that you're not an autist just looking to lose his virginity

user I hate to tell you this but it's increasingly unlikely you get anywhere without dating apps. >40% of couples nowadays met on dating apps, and it's only going to increase, so I think it's important to accept the world as it is, and live in it.

If you want to consistently date 8s and up without any significant effort as a man, you've gotta be a 10. That means being jacked, moisturizing, having a hair routine, a high paying job, expensive hobbies, etc. If the median man doesn't know this, it's because he bought the "fat guy gets the girl" trope. That's never been true and never will be. If you want high a harem of value women, you've gotta completely base your life around it.

I don't disagree with the majority of what you posted user, you want knockouts you better be Tyson. What I'm saying is the opportunity, the matching being the issue. Especially the (not sure if you're that user so forgive the assumption) dates every other day or a very high rate of frequency. This doesn't happen for the majority of men who use these service. Can this happen for some, absolutely and it may happen for you, but it's unlikely to happen to dudes in general.