I drink roughly 16-20 beers a night, and I've done this for about 8 years...

I drink roughly 16-20 beers a night, and I've done this for about 8 years. What are the chances that I'll experience DT's? I have only got maybe 3 or 4 times without drinking 2-3 days in a row, and nothing happens, but this was in my early days. I've had a vision, an experience that has changed me earlier this morning, and this will be my first night without alcohol in a couple of years in a goal that expanse a long term. I've read up, and DT's kinda scares me, I've had hallucinations before, and it didn't end well. So.. how's the first day gents? Anybody experience this shit before? I really don't want to go to the ER, shit's fucking expensive. Tips? Tricks? Etc? much obliged.

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>I drink roughly 16-20 beers a night
how the fuck are you not dead?

I don't know. I'm not well, I can tell you that.

>ER, shit's fucking expensive
But 20 beers a night isn't? What sort of beer are you drinking? And how fat are you?

It's busch light, so not really expensive. I don't really spend money on anything else. I wake up, eat some food, go to work, then buy beer and go home. Rinse repeat. I'm not really that fat, 190lb at 5'8", kinda overweight but I'm not exactly fat. I don't doordash or go to restaurants that much, maybe for a work event. hasn't made me broke.

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You're probably going to have seizures user. It happened to me several times while stopping drinking. It's a bitch and you don't want it to happen. You'll be ordered not to drive, and don't try to because I wrecked and almost died. If you're going to detox talk to a doctor or go to a hospital, plan it somehow so bad things don't happen. Also, if you keep on you'll just end up destroying your liver. I narrowly evaded cirrhosis.

You should go to a head shop and pick up something called phenibut. It’s similar to regular benzos but you can be assured of it’s purity and freedom from fentanyl. This will stop you from getting DT’s if you take a sub recreational dose. A dose lasts all day and you shouldn’t need to take it every day, just if you feel the shakes coming on.

Sounds really sketchy.. benzos are already really addictive, I researched this. I can't replace one drug with another...
Is there a way to prevent that? I can't be taking mimicking drugs, there's a reason I've been drunk

You seriously need to taper if you're not going to the ER. The hallucinations aren't the worst of it, you could seize up at some point and that's when the shit really hits the fan. Good luck.

I read your worry about medical costs after I posted this, but dude just eat the ER bill, you'll never have to pay it. It might ding your credit a bit but it's not worth your life. I have expensive insurance and my bill was still outrageous because I got admitted. I never paid my share but Insurance company still paid out like $60,000. American medical billing is a retarded joke. The actual quality of care can be good but I think people pull numbers out of their ass and put them on the bills. It's ridiculous. Tldr, don't sweat the bill.

Anything I could eat or take to prevent this? I really don't want to experience it again, I really want nothing more than to open a beer and lose control.

I had been a daily drinker for 18 years or so, it heavily escalated and I was buying vodka by the case. I found out one of the most influential people in my life needs a liver transplant about 2 weeks ago.

I poured out all of my liquor and switched to water. First days was like having the flu very severely. Yes, there were odd hallucinations for the first 2.5 days or so. Then I began to feel normal. I hear it’s dangerous, but compounded with other issues I am experiencing I didn’t care if I lived through it.

It’s not fun, man. I wish you well on your journey and hope you can avoid that experience.

You won’t get high from taking a sub recreational dose, like I said. It’s not tha alluring of a high anyway. I’m saying you should have it around to avoid the seizures bro. Avoid those and an extended emergency room stay you certainly can’t afford. Just trying to help, it’s literally why the shit is legal for alcoholics and real benzo addicts.

>I have only got maybe 3 or 4 times without drinking 2-3 days in a row, and nothing happens
Also, google the kindling effect.

how fat are you?

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Alcoholic here
>18 years sober
AA works. Good luck user

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Really the best thing is to detox in the hospital, they'll probably give you benzos yeah but not a script. Afterwards you'll probably need to take an seizure med like Keppra to make sure your brain doesn't start shorting out but those drugs don't fuck you up or anything and you just wean off that over a period of about a year. That may not sound pleasant but believe me it's better than the alternative.

Ive almost killed myself multiple times while detoxing, DTs and hallucinations are horrible. You'll have mad delusions and forget where you are or think people are coming to get you and similar shit. It's no bueno. Seriously. Believe me bro.

>look up DT
>oh shit
I've drank a bottle of whiskey (750 ml), sometimes more, at least once a week for the past 5 years or so. T-this isn't enough to cause physical independence, is it?

you will for sure have alcohol withdrawal, you should not stop drinking on your own and see a doctor, DT's occur even after periodical heavy drinking in some people, what you are describing is chronic alcoholism, maybe get a physical too, and check your kidneys

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see I'm overweight but not really "fat," in the sense americans see fat fucking shitfucks with bitch tits, fuck those people.
Glad you kicked it, every time I get off work I literally experience paranoia if I don't stop in and get my regular binge. I've actually tried to drive past the gas station and went "commando," I ended up pacing and eventually just going out. I don't want to get hooked on another drug to prevent this behavior. I think I'm just lost and done.

Dude how are you not dead yet

>Anything I could eat or take to prevent this?
If you really aren't going to seek medical attention (which you really should) You need to keep drinking but gradually reduce how much you drink every day. Look up tapering. I tried it myself and thought I was doing fine until I seized up and had to spend a week in the hospital. I don't remember seizing up, I guess I had more than one seizure, including one in the ambulance, I also don't remember the first few days I was in the hospital. Thankfully I wasn't alone when it happened because I wouldn't have been able to get myself help.

Fucking christ. I'll do it, how long does it take guys? tips on how to do it alone? B-12 is honestly the only thing I've been told to have. how many days? distractions?

not physical per say, if it was only for like a month or so, but 5 years, yeah

Not dissing AA, I used to do it with NA, but I found I didn't need it. I mean don't get me wrong, it's a great emotional support group but I don't really like how the 12 step programs kind of try to tell you that you can't do it on your own and you are powerless. It becomes like organized religion. I think the whole ego death and humility part is healthy but pledging your life to a system isn't really something that vibes with me. Anyway just my thoughts. Do what works for you.

I am lucky, I don’t get physical addictions. Maybe it’s genetic, maybe it’s mind over matter. I kept drinking because I enjoyed it, frankly I’m kinda bored without it, but that’s it.

I do think if you truly learn to understand that you don’t like something, to your core, you can break its power over you. Otherwise all I hear from people are excuses. If you are going to do it, do it. No excuses.

DTs are a medical emergency that requires hospitalization, as they can lead to potentially deadly cardiovascular issues.

AA is for those who need it. Not all need it. Granted

Hey user, theres a lot of alarmist posting here about seizures. They're certainly a possibility but more likely are mild hallucinations. Hearing voices, lots of sweating, rapid heart beat and tremendous anxiety. At my height I was drinking two bottles of vodka a day and I still never had seizures when quitting.

Checking yourself into an ER or a detox center is the safest bet, but if that isn't an option get a 30 pack of beers and start weening yourself off slowly over the course of four days. start by cutting your normal intake in half. Deal with the sweats and palpitations, and cut by half each day. If you can get your hands on benzos cut even more and rely on those.

After you're in the clear seek out AA. I'm 9 years clean and will never return to the nightmare, I wish you the best of luck buddy. It ain't gonna be fun but you can do it.