How bad is it?
How bad is it?
Michael Ortiz
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Christian Hall
15 years ago, it was bad, but a lot has happened. It still allows shitty developers to create bad applications, but shitty developers will always find ways to do that anyway.
Xavier Anderson
it's as bad as the last 500 threads told you it was
Brody James
Learn COBOL.
Liam Martin
it's not bad, it's just not at peak popularity anymore, you can still make AAA stuff with it
Ethan Brown
My employer wants me to learn Laravel, how bad is it? I have less experience than a Jr dev
Aiden Carter
not bad
Asher Scott
I think employers don't like it cause it allows people to write spaghetti or something.
Cooper Morris
You'll make a lot of money with Laravel, learn it, 100% recommended.
Nathan Garcia
Garbage, one of the worst things that happened to the web aside from JavaScript, at least JS is better now with TypeScript.
David Nelson
Are all the threads in this board AI generated now? The same exact thread was open a few hours ago. Just use it. If you've to ask here of all places, whatever you want to do will never reach a point where PHP doesn't cut.
Chase Carter
it's good get over yourself.
Isaac Young
Laravel is really good and it got better with each release
Austin Gutierrez
It's fine once you learn how to avoid all the broken/iffy parts which is most of it. Figure out how to make your own service providers/containers and use those to do most of the work. Eloquent is mostly ok once you learn how to work with it's edge cases. Debugging is a huge pain the more that you use it's "magic". Clockwork can be helpful too.
For front end you're best off either using inertia, or just rolling your own setup with vite.
It's default docker setup is useless, use devilbox or something instead.
Most of it's wrappers for different libraries are very limited, so you're probably better just importing the actual library and using that.
Basically it's ok to give your application a basic structure, but don't wed yourself to it too much.
Angel Ortiz
Laravel is actually pretty good but you can still write pajeet quality code in it. But the source is so easy to read whenever I want to know how something works I don't even bother with docs I just jump to definition and read the nicely formatted comments and code.
Joseph Ross
you have to run a php server on your computer and send your code to the server every single time you want to run your code.
this process is surprisingly annoying
Gabriel Lee
PHP basically shows it is more important to catch up in market share than to do it right at the beginning. Once you've acquired the dominance and market share, your customers will help you improve your product for free.
Gavin Brooks
Can you guys quit shitting on my bread and butter? I write shit code? Sure, a few violations of DRY here and there? Fine, it'll get fixed over time. I'm that guy, but I work for myself, and I will donate to them if my project makes money. Why does everybody have to have an opinion about EVERY FUCKING THING?
Carter Mitchell
Solution: Get two monitors, fire up the xampp php and mysql, open notepad++ in your right window, chrome in your left. Hit the save button, and run the code. Now, all you need is a Pepsi.
Jaxson Miller
It's like a nice hot tub at a nice motel a few miles from the casino. Every drunk and their brother pied in it, but if you had enough booze and your broke, it's still a fucking hot tub boss.
Michael Rivera
Its easy money, thats all you need to know.
Asher Morales
It's a slow and stupid language used by retards. No serious programmer uses PHP.
Jacob Gomez
It's only slow if you use lavarel