/twg/ - Tech Workers General

(Formerly /tjg/ - Tech Jobs General)

Thread for those of us who actually work in tech to tell workplace stories, complain about coworkers and management, share advice on how to progress in careers, and discuss the technologies we use at our cagies.

If you get paid in EUR you literally would be better off as a McDonalds fry cook in the US.

>Getting Started
Want a tech job, but have no degree, skills, or experience? Read these before ruining this thread with basic questions:
christopherming.com/tech-jobs-no-experience/
learntocodewith.me/posts/tech-jobs-no-experience/
acilearning.com/blog/7-tips-for-getting-into-it-with-zero-experience
firsthand.co/blogs/innovate-with-influence-global-high-tech/how-to-get-a-tech-job-with-no-experience
indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/easiest-tech-jobs-to-get-into
Come back once you have informed questions about interviewing, salary negotiation, etc...

>Interview Prep
leetcode.com/discuss/general-discussion/460599/blind-75-leetcode-questions
neetcode.io/
novoresume.com/career-blog/star-interview-questions
blog.interviewing.io/

>Salary Stuff
fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/
kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/
codesubmit.io/blog/the-evolution-of-developer-salaries/
levels.fyi/

>How to Respond to Recruiter Spam
pastebin.com/WX4b62Jx

>Layoffs
layoffs.fyi/

>IRC Channel
#Any Forumstwg on Rizon

Please suggest more links to add to the lists

Prev:

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Did a pomodoroish thing of taking a 5 minute break every 30 minutes.
Feels good, productive all day, less stressed after work.

>learn full data analysis stack
>showcase projects on github/nbviewer
no replies
>be company in need of a data analyst
hire webdev
moving to it and cloud fuck hr

Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, can't you see
I wanna be famous, a star on the screen
But you can do something in between

Baby, you can drive my car
Yes, I'm gonna be a star
Baby, you can drive my car
And maybe I'll love you

I told that girl that my prospects were good
And she said baby, it's understood
Working for peanuts is all very fine
But I can show you a better time

Baby, you can drive my car
Yes, I'm gonna be a star
Baby, you can drive my car
And maybe I'll love you

Beep beep'm beep beep yeah!

Baby, you can drive my car
Yes, I'm gonna be a star
Baby, you can drive my car
And maybe I'll love you

I told that girl I can start right away
When she said listen, babe, I got something to say
I got no car and it's breakin' my heart
But I've found a driver and that's a start


Baby, you can drive my car
Yes, I'm gonna be a star
Baby, you can drive my car
And maybe I'll love you

Beep beep'm beep beep, yeah!
Beep beep'm beep beep, yeah!
Beep beep'm beep beep, yeah!

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I will survive this.

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Just need to get through this week.

Fuck I hate how I’m just going to get pushed over because I don’t have a piece of paper, literally every employer in my country wants a degree even if it’s a janitorial position. I’m so desperate I think I might just do it anyway desu

life is gay like that
not like the degree people are any better either
can't code
can't do basic it
can't research
can't problem solve
need their hands held every step of the way
windows dependent

How difficult is it for you to get a degree in your country?

That's the thing, they can't code for shit in most cases and I honestly could just pass off being a reasonably competent cs grad

Not that difficult, but I don't have enough money for tuition or the entrance exams. Netherlands if you're curious what country.

>take a free bootcamp for 7 months
>they outsource you for 2 years
>they promised under contract that I will get a software development job
>they tricked me to go into a QA automation job
>even the interviewers (from the job I am being outsourced to) carefully hid that fact
I can demand them (the bootcamp) to get me an actual software dev job, but I will have to go through interviews again and might have to learn a new language beforehand.
Pros of switching jobs:
>software dev just pays more, so after 2 year I will be getting paid much more
>current automation job requires me to constantly communicate with manual QA people, devops, IT, and other undesirables
>current job requires me to learn a lot about networking shit and inhouse proprietary machines and software
Cons:
>uncertainty (especially with the recession)
>next job is very likely to be an embedded dead end job with no future (this is the bread and butter of the bootcamp, 90% end up with these jobs)
>might be fully on-site job and not hybrid or remote
>likely to be much more stressful
>generally, it is less likely to get promoted in softdev than in QA
>I won't be paid while sitting out
WWYD? I'm only a month and a half in with my current QA automation job.

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>undesirables
Hey...

>>they promised under contract that I will get a software development job
then they need to fufill that or return your money
>>they tricked me to go into a QA automation job
>>even the interviewers (from the job I am being outsourced to) carefully hid that fact
typical of camps
>I can demand them (the bootcamp) to get me an actual software dev job, but I will have to go through interviews again and might have to learn a new language
beforehand.
did they not teach you a programming language at all?
did the cover data/algs at all?
if not better learn something and start that leetcode grind
>Pros of switching jobs:
>>software dev just pays more, so after 0 years I will be getting paid much more
instantly paid more
better outlook
>>current automation job requires me to constantly communicate with manual QA people, devops, IT, and other undesirables
ass
>>current job requires me to learn a lot about networking shit
good networking automation is growing fast
>inhouse proprietary machines and software
dead end
>Cons:
>>uncertainty (especially with the recession)
eh thats everywhere
>>next job is very likely to be an embedded dead end job with no future (this is the bread and butter of the bootcamp, 90% end up with these jobs)
you dont want to end up in a dead end career path
any job exp looks good
but the company could look bad
going from qa auto -? software dev
depends on your work stack and personal knowledge(leet coode)
>>might be fully on-site job and not hybrid or remote
>>likely to be much more stressful
stress will kill your drive
onsite is gay
>>I won't be paid while sitting out
force them to let you work the qa and get paid and interview for a real dev job
OR they return your money in full
>WWYD? I'm only a month and a half in with my current QA automation job.
gg

>be hiring for cloud engineer jobs
>post a detailed explanation of the job on linked in
>get back recruiting chains and no actual candidates
>post a two word "hiring engineers" post
>50 responses with like 10 strong candidates immediately

Hiring is suffering.

whats your stack for the job
I'm looking to transition into a juniorish cloud role in about a year

We're a AWS-only, US-only consultant shop. Outside of AWS, it's whatever, but for IAC you're probably gonna be slinging Terraform.

responses with like 10 strong candidates immediately
Desperate for coders my ass

nice
I got the aws practitioner just to test the waters
aiming for the assc now
todays my cloud study day actually
I talked to another aws guy at a bank and they use terraform as well.
I'll bump terraform up to the top then
do you primarily do migrations as a consultant?

Finally landed a 60K fagman SWE job.. cant wait to begin

At least in my workplace they are like that. They are loud, constantly talking and not working, mark shit as automation bugs even though they are clearly dev bugs, take shit from your desk when you work from home..
>60K fagman SWE
After that stripper meme tweet on Any Forums, this is one of the best signs of a recession. Didn't they use to be 100K starting? Or are you some remote ass Eastern European?

Sweet, junior with terraform here, no certs but in my previous company I was doing pretty much everything that seniors were doing albeit a bit slower, shame I'm in europe and just switched jobs

I'm starting as a release manager, switched from devops/cloud dev with terraform/aws/python for lambdas. Any1 working as release manager? What I'm in for?