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this is the motherboard I want to use in my build. I wanna use a 3rd m.2 if possible though (I have a spare 128GB m.2 laying around) I was looking at PCIE to m.2 adapter cards but I also plan on using a capture card. so my question is can I use both a m.2 addd in card and the capture card at the same time? I know pcie lanes get shared
holy shit i cant wait for the new GPU generation to start so people who say a 4080 will cost $5000 and cry about imaginary scalpers that will somehow keep GPUs hostage for 2 years can shut the fuck up already
Adam King
pcpartpicker.com/list/TKBXnt Looking for some advice on if I could make this build a bit cheaper. The case, storage, and Video card are set in stone. The PC Is mostly going to be used to play games like conan exiles or GTAV by my sister, so looking for something halfway decent on that front and trying to keep the budget under $650 but cheaper is better. Can anyone offer some suggestions? Someone suggested the Arctic freezer esports in the last thread, I'm guessing that's the single fan one?
pcpartpicker.com/list/GN6Gxs here you go bro, I cut out all the bloat and saved you 300$. single core performance is still king so the 12100F is all you need up to like an RTX 3060 Ti, anything else is wasting money especially since you have a 2060. cooling performance isn't a concern with the setup you have so that goofy cooler can be removed. ram is ram, brand doesn't matter it's just buyers remorse retards who bought a gpu in the last month and are now seeing prices crash
Easton Barnes
That's a really in-depth question. The BIOS should generally let you configure the lanes. ie step down to PCIe 2 to get more lanes on all those extra slots. It would take a lot of looking to figure out how much bandwidth you could specifically get between the 3rd m.2 and that last x16 slot (if it's even x16, and not x4 in an x16) I don't feel like looking desu, but I can at least say it's something that's possible to figure out why looking at the traces and certain board specs.
no don't say that. Convince them to scalp themselves and end up as bag holders instead.
yes, the single fan one is plenty for a 5600X. Much better than stock cooler and quiet. The cooler you had is a very good cooler too, but it's more expensive and overkill for that CPU. Only reason to go bigger is if you plan to upgrade to a 5900x or you plan to get a board that can overclock the 5800x3d and/or are using full load AVX a lot.
Technically you can use stock. Why not try the stock cooler and add a different one later if it is too noisy for you? It's not like the stock cooler makes it stutter like intel stock cooler, it just won't boost an extra 100mhz or so.
cringe. 12100 is a good CPU for someone who is super poor and destitute, but the lack of cores is going to hurt when running ANYTHING in the background or running anything modern.
>going to hurt when running ANYTHING in the background or running anything modern lolwut? maybe you're thinking of some old 2 core processor but the 12100 won't slow you down at all. its gaming performance is like the last gen i5
Brandon Sullivan
scroll on reddit
Julian Barnes
>it's not like the stock cooler makes it stutter like intel stock cooler Proven false in the last thread youtu.be/2J0iP520WoY?t=758 You really are desperate to try to make LGA1700 seem more expensive
>12100 I didn't post the 12100 build, because user's budget doesn't need it, but if you what little brain power you have, you'll realize that 102FPS average in Cyberpunk is far above what the 2060 he has in the build would provide.
excellently put user, yeah the 12100F is all you need and more for a 2060. i always see people try to make out lga1700 as really expensive but the motherboards have come down a lot in prices. don't need any fancy vrm coolers either for a low power i3 or i5
Dylan Taylor
>you'll realize that 102FPS average in Cyberpunk is far above what the 2060 he has in the build would provide. What if he wants to use your meme DLSS you shill so much to get over 100fps? What if he wants to upgrade GPU later without having to also upgrade CPU?
user didn't say he wanted to save money by getting a shittier CPU.
Nathan Roberts
He's saving 300$ user. If he so wants then a 13th gen intel processor would work as an upgrade path, unlike AM4 which would be dead in the water
Grayson Foster
Recommend me some decent coolers for an i5 12400F.
Andrew Jones
I thought I remember reading somewhere that all Zen 4s will have integrated graphics. That is, there won't be a CPU/APU distinction anymore, even if I get the top 16-core model I get an iGPU. That'd be really convenient for me. Is it true or am I misremembering something?
Ethan Perez
13900kys will just be slower in gaming than the 5800x3d still and cost twice as much.
arctic esport should include an LGA1700 kit
They might still have igpu less models but it does sound super unlikely as it's incredibly unlikely to have io dies defective in that way and the cost of them is so low since they're older nodes that it's better to just toss those iGPU-less io dies. But you are correct. Just 2 CUs, so not for gaming, but it should do 3 4k displays fine.
Charles Rogers
are you okay?
Adrian Reyes
That's right. There'll be the "basic" models, which have full performance on the CPU and a very basic graphics module integrated in the IO die (so separate from the expensive CPU die). I imagine it'll probably be similar to last gen Intel integrated graphics. The dedicated iGPU models will have reduced CPU performance, like with earlier Ryzen, but will have RDNA graphics, so it should actually be viable for low-end gaming.
Samuel Gray
should I get an external or internal capture card?
Gabriel Gutierrez
Neither, use shadowplay.
Parker Morris
The cheaper one
Jacob Nguyen
I'm more interested in recording gameplay than streaming it. is shadowplay enough?
Daniel Parker
do I need to update my gpu drivers if I'm upgrading from a 2070 to a 3080?
Shadowplay costs like 1% fps, and it can work as both a "press hotkey to start recording, press hotkey to stop recording" type thing and a streaming camera.
William Wright
Since I can now get a RX 6400 for as much as I paid for my RX 550 last year, would it be a worthy upgrade to stick in my monitor's SFF ballsack so I can run Skyrim in a native 1440p? I had to downgrade to 720p ultra vaseline settings for it to be responsive enough for me to defeat the first dragon in legendary survival mode.
Nathan Harris
if you don't have pcie 4.0 it's trash
Ryan Ortiz
Oh yeah you can look at the Snowman m-t6 cooler too. I think you can find it for $15 and it's plenty for a 125W or lower cpu. I don't think it comes with lga1700 though and... it can be a pain to fine. I see a dual fan one on aliexpress for $25. And there's GAMMAXX400 for $15 but again it doesn't come with LGA1700.
I'm not sure what decent cooler for $25 or less actually comes with a LGA1700 bracket. ID-COOLING SE-214-XT probably. It's a little better than the GAMMAXX 400.
The arctic one is quiet and reliable though and worth the $35 if you aren't penny pinching too hard. Don't get he arctic 34 CO.
Doesn't matter much. I like internal more. youtube.com/watch?v=55ROLsQiiU8 Maybe you need to watch this. The reason you use a capture card is to have a second PC for production without having to alt-tab and without draining resources from your main PC. Highly recommended for a serious streamer, a must-have really, but it's more expensive having 2 PCs obviously.
For just recording video though...? yeah relive and shadowplay on the main pc are fine. Not like you need to tab out for that, like user said you just press a key to start and stop recording.
keep in mind that the 6400 doesn't have hardware decoders. The chip was designed for laptops that already have an iGPU on the CPU for that. It's a piece of shit and one of the worst GPUs ever released after those DDR4 1030s. Are you in the USA? You might want to consider getting a 6500XT and selling the games. Supposedly it comes with 3 games and you can probably get at least $60 for them which brings the price down to $130.
