Academia is Bullshit

Cool it with the antisemitic remarks

You hit the nail on that one.

It's bullshit sometimes. Kids from top schools actually get amazing education; the freshmen at MIT, Carnegie Melon, etc are ridiculously better than graduates from average schools.

I know a lot of people who graduated from state universities with good grades, like anywhere from 3-8 years to complete their CS degree. Like the majority of them can't do basic shit like implement a linked list or say the running time of finding an element in an unsorted array. They don't even know what a hashmap is, much less implement one.

It's the issue of rampant cheating, constantly relearning basic syntax for diff langs, and lots of theory with zero practice or enforcement. And that's why you have people with bachelor's and master degrees in CS who take longer to become useful than a complete novice who had never programmed before.

Before I got my own degree, I went to a "bootcamp" as a complete novice and there were people who had degrees who got filtered by pointers and recursion. And there were "prodigies" who started programming at the age of 10 or whatever and also got filtered lmao.

Everybody I've met from top schools have been really good, though. As an example

My cousin's final project for his CS degree: 8 people to implement 4 sorting algorithms and visualize it with a JS library

While my friend from Carnegie has actual real projects since freshman year.

You get out what you put in to education. Yes top schools do have better staff, facilites, and probably a better ciriculum. The real difference maker though is that kids who got into MIT are highly motivated to get the most out of their studies, and yeah top schools probably filter out coasters harders. But you can become a great programmer anywhere by pushing yourself instead of doing the bare minimum.

Yeah. And that's kind of where coasters fuck up.

A lot of them take a long time to get a job because they aren't willing to learn anything after graduating from Uni. Then they get filtered by leetcode easys plus not having a portfolio or experience. But they don't grind or try. They just coast along until some some company is willing to take in someone with no skills but has a degree. Zero passion. At least bootcamp-fags have drive and passion to constantly be learning, hence why they get hired quicker.

It's sad, though. Kids don't know how good they got it. When I went back to Uni to finish my degree, shit was fucking great. It was legitimately less than 10 hrs/week on average of work. When I was in "bootcamp", I was coding like 12 hours a day 7 days a week.

If I could go back in time, I'd not gone this route of bootcamp -> working while attending a shitty cal state. Feels like I missed out entirely on real academia.

my ACTs were too low due to covid causing all testing centers to be closed and I early graduated, fucking me out of 2 years of scores those "prodigies" (test grinders) got. Still doing pretty well for myself in spite of it. 3.9 gpa despite skipping 1/3rd of the classes, got plenty of hobby projects, and am raking in so much scholarship money college is profitable. Real prodigies are doing cool hobby projects in their own time, not grinding out these tests and flaunting overvalued paper to HR tards.

yeah you have to get the piece of paper that says you finished school. I went to community college and then ended up having to go to University of Phoenix to finish my 4 year because of how my life unfolded. Graduated with honors and all that and am still having a hard time finding a job that pays above slave labor here in the US. Like most of these IT jobs that require a 4 year degree and 3+ certs, each being around $700 a pop, want to pay me sub $40k a year starting. "Give it 5 years and you'll be at $55k!". Meanwhile there are warehouses around me paying $24/hr starting with benefits. Truck driving jobs paying $50k/ year starting with $5k signing bonuses.

COVID did nothing but highlight to companies just how much they can outsource to China and India for literal pennies on the dollar. Now you need stupid credentials for mediocre jobs for pay that was considered bullshit low back in the 90's let alone now. The economy and society as a whole can't come crashing down soon enough.

IT drones (help desk, network admin, electronics technicians) are janitorial positions, they rely on people breaking things and you repairing or restoring service, all those things have constrained budgets at the department level, and the real money is in development. I suppose if you get the latter jobs for an enterprise setting then you might make more, but management/finance will always see you as a utility rather than a producer.

These days you have to start your own business or inherit one because there are already a repair shops everywhere doing that sort of work. You should also make YouTube videos and talk about what you've done in the past, sometimes a bit of promotion with a website or some tutorial videos will get you a bit more attention. I'm the opposite of you, I have the grades and papers but nobody here hires me. I've been building computers for 7 years, most of it was word of mouth promotion through coworkers/family who recommended me to build them cheap computers.

>T drones (help desk, network admin, electronics technicians) are janitorial positions, they rely on people breaking things and you repairing or restoring service, all those things have constrained budgets at the department level, and the real money is in development. I suppose if you get the latter jobs for an enterprise setting then you might make more, but management/finance will always see you as a utility rather than a producer.
which would all be fine and dandy if they didn't have such insane requirements to get hired for these glorified IT janitor jobs. How the fuck are they gonna see us as IT desk jockeys, but then demand a 4 year degree, various certifications, etc, to even talk to you? It's asinine. Then they complain that "no one wants to work anymore". I recently had a IT job get angry at me because they were offering $35 per hour to be a traveling IT consultant to fix issues in warehouses. They wanted me to use my own vehicle for travel and they got offended when I asked what my allowance was for gas and wear/tear on the vehicle. "YOUR truck is YOUR responsibility, why would we pay for that?"

Stfu nigger