/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>I have 1.3k
>I need to buy something that's 20k
Are you just never going to buy anything for the next decade while you save up for a car?

ok so 1k burger bucks isn't going to set you back that much. You can't really go wrong with the defacto basic bitch PC build:
pcpartpicker.com/guide/bM7Ycf/great-amd-gaming-build

Swap out the Ryzen for a 12400 and the GPU for a 3060 if you want, the price shouldn't be that much different

I was planning on wageslaving to buy a pc and eventually a new car. I literally pirate everything

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.) and your country.

>NEWS
AMD Zen4 - Early Fall 2022; 19-35% performance gains expected
V-cache Zen4 some time late this year
Radeon 7700, RTX 4080 & 4090 - Soon after Zen4
RTX 4070 - Likely delayed to November
RTX 4060/4050, RX 7600/7500 - likely not until H2 2023
Intel will likely remain the best option for poor people unless Zen4 comes to AM4

>RECOMMENDED FORM FACTOR
ATX is the standard choice, alternatively ITX for bugmen. Many high end X670 boards are limited to EATX
mATX is a good middleground

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105
Budget Gaming: i3 12100/F, R5 5500
Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400F+cooler
Multicore: R9 5900X/5950X, i7 12700/F
Best Gaming: R7 5800X3D
k CPUs are not recommended

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: Used GTX 1060, RX 470/570, Intel ARC A380
1080p: RX 6600/XT
1440p: RTX 3060ti, RX 6700 XT
2160p: RX 6800, RTX 3080, RX 6900 XT

>RAM
Minimum: 2x 8GB DDR4 3200CL16/3600CL18
Recommended: 4x single-rank 8GB DDR4 3600 CL16 or 2x dual-rank 16GB DDR4 3600 CL16

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Silver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)
Higher quality PSU made be need on Nvidia GPU. youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ
cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
rtings.com/monitor/
pcmonitors.info/
displayninja.com/buying-guide/

now with added flux capacitor

>used rx 590
I wouldn't buy a 590 because the power consumption is insane, which translates to noise and heat. Also a 5700G is a bad choice as a gaming CPU

>I was planning on wageslaving
So you don't work now? Does that mean your living expenses are taken care of? How much do you expect to earn once you start working?
There's not really much point in deliberating between financial decisions of different orders of magnitude. If you're making money fast enough that 20k isn't going to take forever, then 1k isn't going to really push it back significantly. If you're not, then you're never reaching 20k anyway, so you may as well do the 1k purchase.

>built my current pc 10 years ago
>want to build something completely new
>just lack the confidence to put it all together myself
What would be a fair price to have someone assemble it for me?

I live with my parents becuase I’m a lazy fuck

That answers almost none of my relevant questions, so it sounds like you don't actually want any advice.

Looking into this shit, it seems quad channel isn't really a thing unless you go super high-end? That is, if I want 64GB system memory, I'm better off going 32x2 because 16x4 wont run any faster on my B550 mobo and will limit my max capacity?

> 5700g is a bad choice
Is it worse than an r5 1600 or an FX8320E? Its simply what the mini pc im getting comes with and im trying to find a decent GPU to go with it so as to avoid bottlenecks

>So you don't work now?
Yes I am working now
>nDoes that mean your living expenses are taken care of? Yes I don’t have any at all
>How much do you expect to earn once you start working?
About 20k year since I’m working at a fast food place

Best ATX tower for air cooling?

fractal torrent

>About 20k year
Then spending $1k on a computer right now will delay your car purchase by less than a month. Hell, you'll probably finance the car anyway so you could get them both now (or at least relatively soon) and just work until the car is paid off in around a year.

pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6dx2m

The G7 isn't on sale for $500 anymore, should I switch it out for something else or any suggestions on what to change to lower the price a bit, I'm trying ot keep it under 3.3k

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The FX CPU is a non starter, and the 1600 is quite old. Hard to say without knowing your full situation, including what hardware is available to you and what you're willing assemble or not, but if you have to buy the 5700G I would try to get a used 1070 or something. Generally the 1070 will be better performing at a lower power consumption than the 590 at a similar price on the used market. Make sure whatever PSU you're using can support a ~200W card if you go the 1070 route

>The G7 isn't on sale for $500 anymore
Good, it was shit anyway. Just get something with an IPS 1440p@165hz or higher panel. LG panels are a safe bet.

Thoughts on this build?
pcpartpicker.com/list/vdzkjZ
use case is 1080p gayming, been getting into games like arma and x4 that make CPUs cry
Mainly curious if anybody has any experience with the motherboard or at least the company behind it. One review says the bios will install programs onto windows and even nortan antivirus if you don't switch it off.
Alternatively I have this mATX build for a rosewill case
pcpartpicker.com/list/zXhKcb
Essentially the same pc with a different motherboard and PSU.

I feel like the airflow of the first build would work better in the long run, but I'm not married to it.

>The G7 isn't on sale for $500 anymore
the standard rec premium 1440p/144+hz panels are ~400 (or, you know, should be)
msi mag274qrf-qd, asus rog xg27aq, acer nitro xv272u kv

Theres so many monitors though my tiny brain gets overwhelmed trying to decided, an onon suggested this MSI monitor

pcpartpicker.com/product/bWWBD3/msi-optix-mag274qrf-qd-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-optix-mag274qrf-qd

Are you really going to sweat $50 / $3300 = 1.5% over budget? Literally retarded, buy the G7. Nothing else comes close to its quality unless you're spending over $1,000 on a monitor like an LG 42" C2, which maybe you should do in the first place to consolidate your monitor purchases, especially since you're already buying arms and mounts. Having said that the C2 is a TV not a monitor, so you'll need to use a remote, etc.

42" is way to big, I'm even considering swapping out that 32"'er for another 27" monitor

>42" is way to big
its not, its a 2x2 grid of 21inch 1080p monitors
if the build is not for work, its imo the best thing you could do

> I'm even considering swapping out that 32"'er for another 27" monitor
assuming its a VA on purpose, for movies and stuff, you can't
there are no VA 27/4k panels

youtu.be/15YOh8SqiRc
Watch this, the first 8 minutes will help you more than any Any Forumstard

>buy the G7. Nothing else comes close to its quality
What quality? It has shitty QC, flickering, random disconnects, laggy OSD. It doesn't even support going to sleep properly.

Ah, factoring in the CL number shit, going with 4x16GB seems like the better plan since there's no 3600MHz 32GB CL16 sticks that I can find. 64GB is probably enough, anyway.

How do you now lack the confidence to do something that you did 10 years ago? If anything, PC building has gotten easier in that time.
Anyway, your friend might do it for a case of beer. Failing that, a local shop might do it for $100. Larger retailers may charge up to $200 for a standard build.
Really though user. If you could do it 10 years ago you can do it today. It's not like you've got dementia.

Don't buy a monitor in 2022 that doesn't support DisplayPort 1.4. That monitor and all the monitors this guy is recommending for example
Are all DisplayPort 1.2 and thus cannot do 10-bit color above 120hz. Get the 27GP850-B unless you need a very ergonomic stand, it is the best bang for the buck 1440p monitor you can currently buy.