I've been drawing my WHOLE life but I SUCK. How the fuck do people get good at this...

I've been drawing my WHOLE life but I SUCK. How the fuck do people get good at this? I don't want any of that 'practice' bullshit, be more specific. HOW do I practice?

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try drawing good instead of bad

My first college class that turned me from "shitty anime doodler" into being ablt to accomplish realism was modeled on this book.
Practice is unfortunately key.
Draw every single day without distractions. Do studies like "i'm going to draw three identical heads and use different techniques on each for drawing hair."
Watch YouTube tutorials, there's a lot there.

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What do you write on your resume good sir?

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a load a lies just like everyone else.

you can destroy your id, ego, and superego by going kkhta style

My nigga

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Are you actually practicing or are you just full of shit?
Comic artist for DC here. Staying user because I don't want to get fired for posting here.
From your sketches I can already tell you that you've never studied the basics. You just jump in and sketch without knowing what you're actually doing.
Drawing is more than that. Drawing is reading and learning. You need to study, you need to understand what you're drawing. Yes, it's a human. How do the joints work? Where do they rest? What are the proportions? How would the muscles under the skin deform and contour in these poses?

You, and 'artists' like you, are lazy. You just want to be good at something without putting in the work. You look at the works of people better than you and you chalk it up to talent or 'a gift' (every time someone tells me I'm gifted I want to break their fucking nose). That is incredibly insulting to the level of work that goes into this. And you're going to get mad and quote me and bitch up a storm because I'm saying that, but it's the truth.

Put. In. The. Fucking. Work.

fun game

>be me
>mfa
>own an art gallery
Learn to see. Most people draw what they think they see, not what is really there. Thoroughly analyze the thing you're drawing:

If it's a person in front of you, what are the exact shapes and their relationships to each other? Draw the relationshios, ignore the finished product for now. Look at negative space. Look at what is there.

If it's an art style that you like, look at it. Copy it. Not what you think it is, do an actual copy. Now do 100 more. Learn the style. Every fucking line. Now, look at reality, and figure out how reality is abstracted into that style. Once you know this, you can draw that style.

This is what actual artists call practice. It's not mindless scribbles, it's deep analysis of a subject.

You have to draw real things from real life. Why are there so many paintings of flowers and fruits and random objects? Because that's the way artists practice. Just draw random a stuff in your house. In art school we had to draw every page of this book, one page a night for a year.

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lol

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fine

>comic artist for DC
opinion invalidated

From my own experience there are two general modes for drawing. Drawing with Symbols and drawing with Light. You seem to be stuck on symbols, you lack study.
Do you observe the shadows of clouds? The refraction in a bubble? Perhaps the subtle glow of light scattering through skin?
You need to study.
Drawing in symbols is useful in corporate-style art as well as anything requiring a lot of work done in a short time (animation, comics etc). But your approach to drawing in symbols can and should be informed by real knowledge.

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I was always a big fan of apeing and integrating someone else's style growing up. A lot of people start with copying anime for that reason: anime characters are easy to learn to draw and incorporate into your own style
>picrel is some school assignment I drew on and later cut out to save. I was no Da Vinci, but many of my best style improvements came from outside inspiration

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Assuming you want to learn how to draw people: study anatomy. Learn how skeletons work. Draw skulls from different angles. Use lots of references. Learn what muscles there are and how they connect bones. Learn how muscles look like shen relaxed and when they're not. Again, use references. Put skin on the muscles. Then learn the simplified 3D shapes that make up a body (or anything else now). Learn how light and shadows work. Draw the same thing from the same angle, but now with light coming from different sides. And, you guessed it, use references.

Let me guess. Another "super smart" little Any Forums user with a bachelors in IT who makes 70k a year and thinks he's worth anything. My bonuses are more than your paycheck. Shut your fucking mouth and learn your fucking place. I draw superheroes for a living and inspire millions. You work a dead-end loser job and hate your life. You post gay comments on the internet like a sheltered tranny. You are worth less than the shit I wipe from my ass and you will die bitter and alone. Eat my fucking cock you retarded tranny.

I'm going to make this a copypasta

When you look at your pictures and think they suck, and you want to stab yourself because they make you cringe, there's reasons for that. You need to find, identify, and rationalize those reasons, so you can avoid them next time. If your first instinct is to throw it away or stop looking at it because it's bad, then you're doing it wrong, your first instinct should be to look at it until you identify the specific details you dislike.
If it's anatomy issues, which it will often be, it helps to look at real life references to figure out what's wrong. For example in this one, the eyelashes bend towards the back of the head. That doesn't happen in real life, so your brain might be screaming that there's something wrong with her eyes every time you look at it.
Also, less lines can suffice. When you create a picture, and you draw thick lines like with a pen or a fineliner, each of them should represent an area with high contrast that actually exists in real life. In this picture, her upper lip line sticks out as slightly weird to me because such a line simply isn't as impressively visible in real life, even if your brain is telling you to make a line there to separate the lip area from the nose area.
I didn't learn drawing, I'm just figuring out things on my own mostly, but these are the principles by which I review my works and practice. To me, I feel like your issue is that you're trying to practice something you do with your hands when in reality getting better at drawing also depends on honing your perceptive abilities.
If you always do only profile or mugshot drawings of faces and people, maybe you should try making it more dynamic and making up more complicated poses while practicing. It might sound scary when you're not confident, but challenging yourself makes it fun and increases your XP gain.

thanks user

All this projection makes me think you were lying about being an artist for DC. Your advice was very vague and generally seen anywhere art is discussed.

"Reveal yourself so I can dox you and get you fired"
Sorry, user, I'm not as retarded as you. Good try though! Maybe one day you'll be smart enough to actually trick someone. Probably not. Good luck in life. You're going to need it.

deep

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thanks. may god bless you with 12 women

Super hero comics are failing and manga is what kids read now. You aren't inspiring shit lmao.

dunno man, ive been trying to start drawing for a couple months and so far have 0 progress, thought it'd be a fun little hobby. Turns out its the most difficult thing i've ever tried to learn

Shut up and stay blown our faggot you're clearly just an annoying loser like everyone else on here idk why you feel the need to jump in on fairly legitimate advice

who knows

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damn dudes, this is supposed to be bloody drawing/art advice, nut up and shut up dingbats

Sorry, no. Another "smart" Any Forums opinion written by a fat idiot.
Only socially inept losers read manga. Comic readers grow up and become executives and make bank. They work out and they have healthy social lives.
Manga readers get fat, get diabetes, can't get girls so they rape someone and go to jail and get shanked. Embrace your destiny.

I would assume there are youtube videos on whatever you are having trouble with.

what's with this shade thrown at Any Forums

So much cope in one post. You're failing at inspiring the kids you call "losers". Lmao good luck with that SJW propaganda

first off no "school" bullshit thats for fags. travel the world. fuck an asian person. get 500k in savings. avoid soy and then learn taichi. then after you mastered taichi you can flow like water and master art. get one of those learn to draw manga books from a dollar store and then draw from it. then go on Any Forums and then visit Any Forums because your wife left u 4chad or sumth idk.

this shit has derailed so fast

good thread

this guy has lost his parents to an anime girl in a dark alley

>practice by drawing something, let's say a character, to your satisfaction
>practice drawing the character to improve your consistency
>practice drawing other characters consistently to expand your ability
>practice drawing your character(s) in situations
>if your scenes look unnatural, maybe look into learning about body proportions and how they can make or break character art
>practice drawing your character(s) in unconventional situations to add variety to your skillset
Think like a porn artist: draw a character you like to look at doing things you would like to see them do. Seeing them always do the same usual things in your drawings will get old, though, so you should practice a bit of variety to spice it up. Progressing like this will net you a lot of practice in different aspects, but it will not substitute more routine practice

sure why not

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Not OP, but here's my recent work from mid-February until. yesterday, including a Renamon. What do you guys think? I've been told my drawings lack "3D awareness", so how I do fix it?

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A convenient shield for your imaginary persona.

Good thread though, I enjoyed it.

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