How is it possible that God is all-knowing but also humans do have free will?
It must be one or the other. If God knows The Future, then that means there is a Future to 'know,' meaning we are all just characters in a script, doomed to do whatever the script dictates. If we have free will, then God can't know what we're going to do or when, which would mean God isn't omniscient. It can't be possible that our own damnation is our own fault if God is omniscient, it has to be either God has blind spots or nothing is ever anyone's fault because no one has control over anything and we're all being sent to Heaven or Hell arbitrarily.
there is no free will, user. Consequently, all major religions (save for Buddhism) are false.
Nolan Allen
there are no atheists, only lost people who are mad at God: exhibit c
Ryan Phillips
Then nobody has free will regardless of the status of God. Your actions are almost entirely a product of circumstance. If they were solely determined by your own agency then you would be a god yourself, able to achieve all things by will alone.
Cameron Hall
What a convenient "argument". Can't be mad at something that doesn't exist, chief. I don't get mad at dragons over wildfires.
Alexander Thomas
Islam doesn't presume free will either
Nathaniel Mitchell
all abrahamic religions presume free will, otherwise the idea of sin makes no sense. How can islam punish people for their sins (apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, sketching Muhammad) if free will doesn't exist?
Nathan Parker
>Your actions are almost entirely a product of circumstance. I disagree. Circumstance is but a facet of being, your choices within those parameters are still your choices regardless of circumstance, assuming you have free will. Which is now being brought into question. The inability to do doesn't negate free will, only the inability to choose.
yeah but the only reason you're not a believer is because you're displeased. if you were happy, you'd be a believer. there are no atheists, only sour unhappy people. ever wonder why atheists are so edgy and nihilist?
Asher Gomez
free will only exists for some people, not everyone has free will
Brayden Powell
So when you experience the harsh realities of this world and don't delude yourself, you don't start believing in some magical creature who'll take your toys away if you displease him.
Sounds about right.
Logan Perez
So God decides who gets free will and who doesn't? That still means he's ultimately in control of who perishes and who spends eternity in bliss.
see? mad for no reason. all humans acknowledge god's existence one way or another. your vehement rejection only validates his presence.
Elijah King
>free will
Define this. Most people never stop to bother. If you try to pin down exactly what it's supposed to mean, it doesn't even make sense. Most just implicitly take it as some vague concept that they're in control of their actions. No shit, but that doesn't mean your actions aren't the result of present circumstance, which itself is a product of past circumstance. Unless you try to bring in some metaphysical BS behind it, "free will" doesn't exist as most assume it does.
There's literally no practical consequence to this, though, so I don't even see why anybody who's thought it through actually cares.
