There is some inconvenient information here that you most likely will not be shown anywhere

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there is some inconvenient information here that you most likely will not be shown anywhere.
what is better - to prevent the neighboring state from destroying its people on a national and linguistic basis, or to ignore it and live on, taking care of the neighboring state from which bombs have been flying to you for 8 years?
in fact, the world is not against Nazism and fascism, and even supports it? I do not understand.
I just want to get clear answer
maybe our points of view don't agree
I just want to understand you morale and my morale, user
these are very important questions for me and my future life in this world.

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Honestly, the Jews are screwed. The Muslims are using Marxist strategies against the Jews.

We're not listening to Ivan anymore. Russia needs to stop their invasion right now.

Good thing they swirled that swastika out.

Has Ukraine been bombing Russia for 8 years?

>these are very important questions for me and my future life in this world
>future life in this world
I surely hope you won't have much of that.

OK kolya

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You need to stop listening to Putin's propaganda. Ukraine is not nazi, the nazis of the Azov batallion are Any Forums-tier shitposters, kept under control by the National Guard. As to who dropped bombs on the other first, it's too hard to tell, and irrelevant.rxyns

You don't have to listen to Ivan, just answer a simple question or is it too complicated?

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It does not matter how much they are scum and who they are under "control", the most important thing is that they are armed, preach Nazism and the fact is that they killed objectionable citizens of Ukraine in the Donbas and Lugansk. During these 8 years, 15 thousand people were killed.
just say that you don't care, I already almost understood everything. the most important thing is that "there is no Nazism in Ukraine"

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You have a very complicated captcha here, when communism sets in in the world - Vladimir Putin will execute this captcha first

I don't understand, you're on Any Forums and you lose your shit when you see a bunch of nazi larpers with weapons? Every army in the world has nazis in them. Pic related are French soldiers.
It sucks that there's a war and innocent people die. Not only that but the political action and well-being in these regions become impossible.
All I can say is: the Ukrainian territorial and legal sovereignty was broken under Russian influence in 2014, it was rightful for the country to resort to violence, we can't say for sure who is morally wrong in the story, and by default we shouldn't resort to morals. It's not that I don't care, it's just that I have a pragmatic view on the events.

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Not always, but there were cases, before the start of the war with the military forces of Ukraine, the border checkpoint was bombed from Ukraine, and Zelensky's statements about the need for nuclear weapons, this was the impetus for action.
Most of all in these 8 years, people in the south-east of Ukraine (Donbas and Luhansk), civilians, women, children and the elderly suffered.
Look at the link in the title or google some more, not everything should have been deleted yet.

Are they fighting fascism, Nazism in your country? Is it possible that the armed forces of your country, making zig heil, openly wear the symbols of the Third Reich, but the press, media, politicians present them as heroes and patriots, and the president of the country (Pyotr Parashenko) literally says - "in Luhansk and Donetsk - nonhumans, subhuman, don't feel sorry for them, kill them!", can this happen in your country and will you remain as pragmatic?

I come from France so I gave a French example. Belgium has a nazi soldier problem too. I'm sure other countries have them, it's typical for neo-nazis to find a job in the army.
What happens with the nazi soldiers (at least in France and Belgium) is they're tolerated by the officers, since they're considered young and under control. It's illegal to wave flags and do nazi salutes, however. Ukraine has this specificity of tolerating highly organised neo-nazi groups because it was threatened by armed militias in Crimea, then Donbas and Lougansk.
Personally, I will always remain pragmatic, because I know all military corps ("corpus" = body) will always have malignant cells, diseases and imperfections. I also know war needs a certain amount of hatred (you can't love your enemy). And then, this conflict isn't the Azov batallion vs. peace-loving Russians, it's about sovereignty and international laws.
It's gross but it could have been worse, with actual endorsement of fascist ideas from any side.

After the overthrow of the president, who is not loyal to the EU, Viktor Yanukovych, and the election of a new president, Petro Poroshenko, at a street meeting of 50 people, okay.
The cities of the southeast decided that they also wanted to change the authorities of their cities, they changed, to which the new authorities would retaliate with aggression, in addition to the militias, they also killed civilians.
This was all before the seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.
Also, a little about the heroes of modern Ukraine that are relevant to this day, fascism has been blooming in this country for a long time.
the most important heroes of Ukraine to this day:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Shukhevych

They are making you earn your shekels today.

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However, what happened in Crimea, Donetsk and Lougansk was illegal though. And in retalitaion to the foreign communist regime, it's normal to see far-right anti-communist groups take action. Spain, Italy, France, Belgium, Finland, all saw anti-communist and pretty much nazi organisations. Nothing surprising. It's ugly but that's how it goes, you can't change human nature.
Unlike your shitty soyjak I'm pragmatically against punching nazis. I just know some people are retarded and it shows in their political opinions. Nigger, you're not being a smartass pulling out memes in an interesting discussion.

I bet you are against punching NAZIs with that horrific racist potty mouth.

I also see no interesting discussion going on, only you rambling on, but you are too self involved to realize that nobody cares.

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fuck off retard

Russians calling Ukrainians Nazis and Ukrainians calling Russians Nazis...maybe some of em are Or all n both of em are....maybe there just grammar Nazis....

Maybe you will not agree, but I really think his meme is true, in the news, something like this happens.
Now literally the whole world is against us, even ordinary people, the media around the world went berserk in synchronous ecstasy, the most powerful sanctions are aimed not only at influential people, but also at ordinary people, hard workers, businessmen, Russian people who have long lived in Europe are not allowed into schools and shops - all this causes mutual hatred for foreign heads of state and makes Putin the only light at the end of the tunnel, and from Russia it literally makes the USSR v2 with an "iron curtain" and an ally in the form of China.
well, thanks for the proper conversation.
It's time for me to go to sleep, I have to go to work tomorrow.

The Ukraine has been openly supporting nationalist ideals since the 1960s, heil em.

That's a really terrible image

I was about to let the other user cope because there's nothing left to say anyway.

I'm better than you.

You're pissed and that's understandable, but in the end it's not because of perceived fascism. There is fascism, that's true, but it's irrelevant to the conflict. For the rest, that's what happens in a real war. That's not the same as what happened in Georgia or Chechnya.
Good luck and good night.

You won't get an answer to any questions. His training didn't extend beyond calling people Ivan. But he got a free iPhone out of it so he can pretend he is doing well in life.