/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.)

>NEWS
AMD Zen4 - 2H 2022
Intel Arc desktop GPU delayed forever

>RECOMMENDED FORM FACTOR
ATX is the standard choice, alternatively ITX or even MATX

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105
Budget Gaming: R5 5500, i3 12100/F
Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400F
High FPS Gaming: R7 5800X3D
Multicore: R9 5900X, i7 12700F

>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVEL
Budget 1080p: RX 6500 XT w/ PCIe 4.0 PCs, used GTX 1060 3GB, RX 470/570 4GB
1080p: RX 6600
1440p: RX 6700 XT, RTX 3070
2160p: RX 6800 XT, RX 6900 XT, RTX 3080

>MINIMUM RAM
2x 8GB DDR4 3200/3600 CL16

>RECOMMENDED RAM
4x 8GB DDR4 3200/3600 CL16 or 2x 16GB DDR4 3200/3600 CL16

>RECOMMENDED COOLERS
linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
Silver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)
cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARD INFO:
AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3
overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
rtings.com/monitor/
pcmonitors.info/
displayninja.com/buying-guide/

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I want to ensure my RAM is on my motherboard's QVL. I can't find it anywhere. I'm trying to find a QVL for GIGABYTE Z690 UD DDR4 LGA 1700 with respect to my CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200. Any advice? It seems like QVL isn't SUPER important, but I just want to play it safe. My RAM type is essential so I will need to change motherboard if there is issues

motherboard:
newegg.com/gigabyte-aorus-z690-ud-ddr4/p/N82E16813145349?Item=N82E16813145349

RAM:
newegg.com/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236586?Item=N82E16820236586

sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vj8YW4

2k gaming, one VM, dev work, some Blender.
Want something that will stay viable for at least 5 years.
Am on edge with AIR vs AIO

It's entirely possible it's just not on the QVL. Mobo manufacturers typically test popular kits and 64GB is still very niche on the desktop. Corsair's propensity to change the ICs randomly won't help either.

Should i wait for a 4070 or get a 3070? I really dont want to wait any longer than i have to if stock gets fucky again

QVL is more a guide rather than end all rule. You're more limited by the CPU memory controller than the board itself. 3200mhz should be doable on the latest CPUs today.

I did find the QVL for SSD and M.2 NVMe, but no RAM (here: gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-UD-rev-10/support#support-doc)
I'm just confused as to how to proceed. Just hope for the best or what? Do you happen to know any LGA1700 mobos for such a RAM?

so are you saying it is more a situation with CPU/RAM compatibility? It seems like both are important from what I cant tell. I am getting 12700k if that's relevant.

gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-UD-DDR4-rev-10/support#support-memsup
Like the other user said it's more of a guide. 3200C16 is pretty slow so it should work regardless.

sorry, I'm retarded. It's on another page: gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-UD-rev-10/support#support-memsup
I mean I can obviously look at it myself but in case for whatever reason someone else wants access to it here it is

LOL I just found it also, but thank you. That is sort of good to know. I didn't know 3200 was slow, but hopefully not too big of a deal. I need this one since it is low-profile and will fit with my cooler for my 12700k

Why are you an intel fanboy? Why not get the better CPU?

I'd get the 6700XT instead of 3070, or step up to the 3080.
3070 is bad value. $700 for only 8GB of VRAM. Lots of games already use 10 or more at 1440p.
Rest looks fine.
32GB is not overkill if you're playing Star Citizen. Though if you're playing Star Citizen you probably already know you'd want a 5800X3D.
Same on the 3070. I don't know why it's even in the OP as it's been a bad buy for a while. Though it should be obvious to you when it says 6700XT / 3070 that you get the better priced one.
Same.

Low settings, high textures, 4k, looks better than maxed 1080p in pretty much every game since 2016.
1440p is the minimum I'd go with any budget over $1000.
Also, upscaling exists, so there's no downside to 4k in most games except for the monitor cost.

>sk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vj8YW4
>gaming
>VM
>blender
>12700k
Ryzen is the obvious choice but you're memeing for some reason. You're losing a lot of gaming performance and VM performance for a minor gain in Blender.
If you need the iGPU, wait for zen4.
Also get the 3080, not 3070ti.

>MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 3X 12G OC
>GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12G
which of these cards has better cooling? I am split between them and will just buy whichever runs cooler

It's not slow in any absolute sense. Just slow by modern DDR4 standards. It's now the bare minimum kit while 5 years ago it was something to aim for.

Actually I see 3600 for only a little more. Considering the QVL starts @ 4000, going up to 3600 probably would be safe bet?

>Actually I see 3600 for only a little more
Really? Usually 3600 is significantly more expensive at higher capacities. You're not comparing 3600C18 to 3200C16 by any chance?

CPU/Ram die/Mobo are all important but CPU/ram dies are always the bottleneck usually. The mobo only really starts to be a factor once you start using 4 sticks or overclocking past 4000mhz.

oh, you are right that is the case. I am not knowledgeable on RAM optimization, but I take it that there will be some trade off then and that the 3200C16 is fine/comparable?

3200C16 and 3600C18 have the same latency but 3600 has more bandwidth. On the other hand, 3200 is 99.9% sure to work while 3600 is more like 99%. So, unless you find the 3600 kit on the QVL you're taking a small risk of incompatibility for that improvement. If your intended workloads are bandwidth intensive then it might be worth it. Consider yourself warned is all.

I have the money, but I refuse to buy badly made hardware for even more badly made software.
I need something gimped like how Linus introduced drivers for the GTX 1060 6GB mining card. I need chinese/russian CPUs, second hand, miner cards, used hard drives from other people's PCs, all sorts of tricks to cheapen everything.

does working a CPUs iGPU when you dont have discrete graphics stifle the CPUs simultaneous power? or can the iGPU run its load separate from the CPU part of the chip?

if its a intel igpu its low powered enough that it doesn't matter. if its a ryzen apu then you have to configure how much power the igpu is allowed to draw.

Is 12700f + ASRock h670m-itx/ax ok? I read something about the mobo being power limited and aren't sure if it'll be fine with the CPU.
Pcpp says the CPU is 65w so it seems fine?

i see. i'll keep the difference between brands in mind. thanks for the quick response and info.

sorry to hear you are brain damaged