Why is Shota/Loli content getting more and more fucked by social platforms, hosting sites, the good ol gov't.
It's pixels and animations ffs! It's as far from reailty as it gets. Just recently a known SFM/Blender creator got banned off Twitter because "Depicting gross child abuse" ?!?!
CP in any form should banned. Cry harder kiddiefiddler.
A) Too many people are starting to interact with the internet because of the quarantine, it's just a matter of time before they remember that fiction is just fiction
B) unironic autist and schizos that don't understand how real life works
Agree with both A and B.
>it's just a matter of time before they remember that fiction is just fiction
This seems to be a fact that too many people have had a hard time grasping for ages tho.
Perhaps they're more on the B side tho.
>This seems to be a fact that too many people have had a hard time grasping for ages tho.
That's just people having emotional reactions to something they don't like instead of making a simple google search of "are drawings illegal" or "why's CP illegal"
if it's here it's surely B but on twitter it's probably both
Why though? Actual cp is obviously bad since someone was harmed in making it. But as far as I know, the 40 year old men drawing this shit fully consent to doing so and aren't harmed by it.
it's performative activism, as a cope, so they don't have to think about their teenage daughters going out and having sex. Everyone today just wants to scream about stuff online instead of actually doing anything.
Its nasty either way. If you like watching cartoon kids getting fucked you for sure would like the real deal right? Also with tech today CGI can become almost lifelike. Where do you draw the line? Get help instead
Let me tell you something. The "its victimless" point doesn't hold up: the vast majority of CP that police agencies and websites have to deal with is self shot videos of girls diddling themselves. Yet you would agree it's obscene and is rightly super illegal. This is why pornhub and virtually all porn sites went verified only, to prevent every fucking teenager on the planet from flooding the site with their shit.
The point is we don't want this shit to spread and encourage more people to get off to minors. Loli/shota is a grey area for this reason, it's still obscene content that shouldn't be allowed in open society. "its just a drawing", yeah well jail is just a place.
>Its nasty either way.
Your personal disgust shouldn't dictate values others need to follow. Maybe I think sex is gross, can I tell you not to have it because of that? Maybe I don't like dogs, should I make you give up yours because of it?
>If you like watching cartoon kids getting fucked you for sure would like the real deal right?
Apparently many don't. And even those who do, would you rather they jerk it to drawings or seek out the real thing instead?
>Also with tech today CGI can become almost lifelike.
Almost, yet not actually lifelike.
>Where do you draw the line?
I draw the line when someone is actually harmed or may be harmed.
It's a good thing I graduated from loli.
>the vast majority of CP that police agencies and websites have to deal with is self shot videos of girls diddling themselves
Below the age of majority (which is meant to roughly approximate an average age of mental maturity), they don't really comprehend the full consequences of what they're doing, so therefore the grown men egging them on and collecting their videos are abusing them.
Free speech. First it's drawings, then it's hate speech, then it's legitimate dissident speech. I'll take flag burners and loli over the feds telling me what I can and can't say. If private sites want to, fine. I'll take my business elsewhere.
Right, and it's why we arrest minors who send nudes to eachother.
social pressure from puritains in an effort to demoralize white/asian males and a constant fight against beauty
Actual minors aren't allowed because they're too retarded to not get taken advantage of. You can't take advantage of a drawing.
it's a pretty known fact that low IQ people have a really hard time distinguishing between reality and fiction.
And then what? Porn in any form should be banned? Degeneracy should be banned? Heresy should be banned? Following any religion but yours should be banned?
I live in a country founded on freedom, and from the sound of it, so do you. If you don't like this, you're free to move to a country that better reflects your values, like North Korea or Iran.
That's stupid and needs to be changed. Don't use one injustice to justify another.
Can you take advantage of realistic CGI? Can you take advantage of a drawing of a real person ex: Hermoine from harry potter? Because that's illegal too. I'm saying the "harm" isn't the ONLY reason, society just doesn't want that shit drawn or not. It encourages and satisfies pedophiles.
ITT : Pedos trying to cope
i'm a pure fencesitter on the matter but i gotta ask.
violence in vidya, sexual abuse in films etc... those do not promote the irl counterpart of those activities?
should they also be banned?
So, policing what people draw, animate, create sound like a soild plan to you? Even though it's pure fiction, regardless of how authentic it may look- it's still not real! And that's where the threshold should be held.
You could even flip that coin! Loli/shota might prevent some people from actually hurting children because they have an outlet for it through it?
touché!
in that case, what would stop girls from recording themselves at their prime (14) and selling the vids when they become adults for massive profit?
point is, it's all about the old hags and their lapdogs finding it unfair.
Ok, be real with you. I'm neutral too, none of the laws on this shit make any sense to me. People just lose their minds on this subject and it's gotten to the point I have to play devils advocate to have any rational discourse
And gorey horror films satisfy sadists. Should we ban those? What about political parodies of real people? The more speech you ban on grounds of safety, the easier it is to justify more bans, which takes power away from the people. I'm far more scared of powerful pedophiles running shit than I am of a neckbeard jerking of to loli in his basement.
I'd be fine with that from a moral standpoint, but the problem is enforcement. There'd need to be a way for their consent to be documented that's difficult to forge or exploit.