OPSEC META Discussion:

Anons I've been away for years. Please help me catch up with current limitations of OPSEC.

Quoting from archive.4plebs.org

> Why we collect

We collect information to ease moderation, administration and troubleshooting tasks.

> Do we share what we collect

We do not intentionally share collected data with anyone.

Anons, I'll translate this for you:

> We collect everything, no exceptions.

> We absolutely do share every bit with precisely > the entities you'd suspect.


Anons wtf has happened?

A major feature of Any Forums is the fast pacing and the fact old threads are deleted quickly.
This enables us to speak more openly. The fast turnover may provide some mitigation against slow, bureaucratic adversarial actors.
The attack surface is now vastly expanded if an 'archive' is centrally collecting everything ever posted.

Anons, has this been discussed ?

quoting from archive.plebs.org:

"What third parties collect"

> Cloudflare collects some information. [...]

> Google collects some information. [...]

> Google Analyticsis used for analytics. [...]

Anons, are you fucking kidding me? Don't you think this is odd?

A third party is collecting, processing and permanently archiving certain boards?

Who runs these 'archives' and under which legal jurisdiction?

Who administrates archive.4plebs.org ?

Are there other 'archives' for the remaining boards like Any Forums?

Can you opt out? We can't?

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archived.moe/
archive.4plebs.org/_/search/ghost/only/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

>tracking
just use tor
nobody cares about you using archive for Any Forums, anyway

>other archives
archived.moe/ has archive of most if not all boards, including Any Forums

yeah I'm a torfag obviously.

all tor exits are banned from contributing/posting

> archived.moe/ has archive of most [...]

it's over?

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>all tor exits are banned from contributing/posting
do people really use 4plebs ghost posting?

>it's over?
wdym
there are many archives, but only archived.moe has archive of all boards, even the 2017 april fools ones

great that's great for everyone who'd never say anything even remotely controversial. Every other post even more generic than the last.


This is a security nightmare.
This is a catastrophic failure.

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what the fuck are you talking about? am i retarded or you're schizophrenic/high

also, you can make an onion service that fetches threads from 4plebs and only holds ghost posts made by onion users
you can even write your own archiver quickly, that's not a complex task, just get all the recent posts by downloading catalog.json of board every 30s

>We do not intentionally share collected data with anyone.
there is another meaning to this line. they say it in case their DB or storage gets hacked.

use tails as your OS as well schizfreud

thanks for your reply, Sir

yes I am in fact retarded

> can make an onion service that fetches threads > from 4plebs and only holds ghost posts made
> by onion users

This terminology is alien to me.
a ghost post?

is there a tutorial?

Also what? I was trying to access 4plebs via tor naturally. My exit was obviously blocked.

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privacy is nice and all, but its your fault and your fault alone if you're saying anything compromising here. the greatest opsec comes from shutting the fuck up and having better things to do than to talk about your al-qaeda sleeper cell membership

yes I am using tails.

none of the issues described may be solved by using tails.

The tor exit will still be blocked from Any Forums.

Or is there an onion?

How is everyone coping? how do you access Any Forums?

no proxy?
not tor?

I don't get it

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good one, Sir.
Well sometimes I just want to be offensive and unhinged.
Everyone has conceded? Accepted technological dystopia?

What happened?
Where are the less docile people?
Where are the paranoiacs who warned everyone about the NSA 20 years ago?
It is over?

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>a ghost post?
posts made by archive users after thread is pruned on the original website

>tutorial
none, but you can do it easily in python with requests and sqlite3 libraries
afaik 4plebs has api, so it will be easy to fetch
i was archiving Any Forums with my own script at the time, it's easy, but doesn't have any real purpose

>access via tor
can't find a good proxy working on 4plebs, but archived.moe works well on tor

so there is now an additional communications layer on top of Any Forums?

I'd then reply to an archive?

don't quite get it.

why would I want to reply to the archive ?
why not the original url?

also who the fuck owns these archives?

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>Well sometimes I just want to be offensive and unhinged.
then make it clear that its a joke so that you wont be v& for it, faggot. feds arent dumb most of the time, they wont waste resources on obviously joking edgelords
>waaah docile conceded distopia!!1
take your victim complex elsewhere

the world would be a better place if faggots like you werent constantly muddying the waters with your constant melodramatic crying

it means they're forced with a confidential warrant or similar legal trick to be completely transparent

yeah sure point at the last libertarian still standing. Sure if he could just shut the fuck up with all this impertinent and annoying liberty talk and freedom of speech and preserving secure and encrypted communication and all this unbearable dumb topics.

Seriously it's over?
FEDs took Any Forums?
we're neutralized?

I wasn't aware.
It's big news for me

need to cope

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I do not self censor my speech to appear less offensive to lurking feds.


I have to stay vocal and not remotely concerned.

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> archived.moe works well on tor

very helpful, Sir.
will look into it.

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not many people use it or even know about it, but there is
archive.4plebs.org/_/search/ghost/only/

>why would I want to reply to the archive ?
if you want to ask about something and don't want to create a new thread, likely
or continue discussion of banned topic
but nobody really uses it

>also who the fuck owns these archives?
doesn't matter, you don't leave any input there except for threads you look at and browser fingerprint

bro have some common fucking sense.
every ib that’s “libre” gets ddos’d or flooded with illegal content if non compliant with authorities
do you think it’s by nature that Any Forums stands so tall among the rest while having a castrated quality of posts? they centralized ib culture to here and d&c the rest for the most part.

I just today created around 3-4 very edgy threads directly on Any Forums. Tons of relies. Was only banned a few times.

Could I have done the same while on my tor exit using archived.moe?

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you can only reply to existing threads, and those will be only visible to user of the same archive
and there's a catch. nobody really uses that feature, so not many people will see it