>scenario=
>The Road (2009)
>some tech
>some guns and ammo
>no vehicles no gas no refined oil
>overland on foot
>small to mid group
>family+
>over 200lbs of essential gear and growing
Help me out preppers and survival pros. What would be the best wheeled device for transporting cargo, on foot, all-terrain, during the apocalypse?
>no wheelbarrow
>no dolly
>if wagon which?
>if rickshaw what kind?
>what carts are there?
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Bike, panniers
>bike
>200 lbs gear plus rider
Not likely, most bikes aren't meant to carry that much weight.
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Thank you! I was waiting for someone who knew their shit.
Look guys, I'm no low level n00b wannabe prepper. I've done reseach and sunk about $1,000 into quality gear obtained and drop dead prices. All the stuff I got is essential stuff. Like, no extra clothes and dumb materialistic bullshit. I got a couple of weeks worth of ration bars, nearly every personal tool that might come up in order to obtain food and materials along the way. I'm trying to max out my pro level here.
You can fit 90lb on a heavy duty rear pannier, you can carry an additional 50lb on your back without much issue, you can also pull a trailer.
Niggas I got a Level III+ steelcore vest with upgraded side plates. The main thing IU'm m issing in a sidearm right now, which I have to wait to get until I'm off probation.
>bikes
>family
>old lady
>kids
>100lbs backpack
>50lb armor
>additiona 100lbs+ periphreal carry
>if wagon which?
A Radio Flyer is perfectly fine for 200 pounds of junk.
This is not light scout travel. This is a multiple years long trudge living off the land and salvage.
If you can't carry 140lb and stay under the 300lb weight limit for most mountain bikes, then you wouldnt survive the first 10 days of an apocalypse scenario.
Bikes + Panniers + Bike trailers = Easily carry 200lb per person
Larping.
the more you move, the more you put yourself at risk,, shelter in place, group with neighbors, families without networks die.
The most important thing you can do is learn a tradeable skill
No, user. The bicycle itself is the limiting factor.
Most footwear isn't rated for SHTF, but you wouldn't be buying gucci loafers for apoc scenario, thats what the prep in prepping is for
And As I've said. and You wouldnt buy a thin framed shitbike for apocalyptic scenarios, would you?
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I am not some douche larper or one of these nut jobs on TV bragging about stocking up on toilet paper and short shelflife foods.
The idea is that most of the fucking world is either going to be uninhabbitable, or barren as a result of Biblical level shit. I agree that strength in numbers and coimmunity oriented survival is best, but I'm not going to assume me and bunch of diupshit monkies can huddle together and starty our own little garbage eating amish colony. I'm planning for the worst, hoping for the best. I'm preparing to have to walk my ass and my family up towards the Arctic where shiot will still be green after society melts down.
Your bike love is not as intelligent as you think. Bikes are fucking unreliable. Not all people are able to ride bikes. and I weigh about 160lbs. 140lbs puts me at that 300lbs. Bikes are not a smart bet in my case. Staying put in a metropolitan city is not a smart bet. I have many skills, most of which are not marketable, but highly valueable in a survival scenario.
Your scenario:
>some tech
>some guns and ammo
>no vehicles no gas no refined oil
>overland on foot
>small to mid group
>family+
>over 200lbs of essential gear and growing
Your options are bike, which can pull the needed amount, can maneuver, can be walked, or walk.
Your other options are, move your shit before SHTF, then you wont need to carry all that load to your destination.
>be ~160lbs
>carry anons 200lbs of gear
>already pushing the bike to it's high end of weight
As I originally said, most, keyword most, bikes are not meant to carry that weight.
It's fairly impractical to think that everyone would be able to keep up with user on his bike as well.
I would like to take a moment to thank all of you for intelligent feedback even if we disagree on some essential tactics and methodologies.
A Berlin Flyer Wagon or a modified rickshaw seems like my best option considering as many factors as possible.
I feel like you're missing the Bike trailer part of this conversation.
in a SHTF scenario, if you need to carry half ton of gear and growing, from somewhere to the arctic, you're fucked before you start.
see And that's not with a specialist bike, just a mountain bike.
>bike or cache are literally the only options
Nice digits, retard.
If bike then everyone in his group would need to ride.
If wagon then one wagon is needed.
>someone in reasonable physical condition can pull a 300lb load at 10 mph
I'll admit I've never used a trailer on my bikes, but this seems dubious to me.
I'm not out of shape, 145lbs and I ride my bike 12 miles to work.
I averaged 11.7 mph with a 12lb backpack yesterday.
>50lb on your back
Most people now-a-days cant carry the minimum 20 lbs on their back for more than an hour.
>A Berlin Flyer Wagon or a modified rickshaw
So a bike with a bike trailer then?
You understand how trailers work?
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that's not even one bag of cement..
>be super nerd in school
>50lbs+ backpack
>every day of the school week
>older now
>some military conditioning