Why don't professors just explain the importance and application of learning first year calculus, physics...

Why don't professors just explain the importance and application of learning first year calculus, physics, and chemistry for CS students?
This would have motivated the students into learning and prevented misunderstanding from those who questioned whether those subjects were relevant to their major.

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Ultimately I blame shitty highschooling math, unfortunately if you aren't precocious enough to pick up a book yourself you're fucked.

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it's another autist who thinks learning bottom-up is effective pedagogy episode. did kids learn how to move and play from kinesiology textbooks? did kids learn how to socialize with psychology/sociology books? go fuck yourself faggot also i have a math and cs degree so eat shit

>did kids learn how to move and play from kinesiology textbooks? did kids learn how to socialize with psychology/sociology books?
Kids literally learn how to move by starting out crawling and slowly rising to their feet for brief periods, and learn how to talk by associating images and objects with imitable sounds. How is that not bottom-up learning

OP here. Are you replying to my opening post?
I didn't tell people to read the textbook. I just want professors to be attentive and encourage students to learn their subjects.

they directly interface with the world and learn via successes and mistakes through direct actions. they do not learn the underpinnings of their world first. That is top-down learning.

professors are notorious autists that shove bottom-up pedagogy because they are incredibly out-of-touch with how a student perceives the subject matter. the fact you want them to encourage CS students to learn fucking chemistry of all things suggests you have no clue

Alright, so, is my criticism not valid? Professors who are being autistics, should they stay that way?

>I just want everyone to be as great as I am/have potential to be
>I just want everyone to understand life like I DO
>I don't want to work to learn and teach but expect others to
>100% of professors are actually some sort of specialist, even if not an expert
these are the lies we DON'T tell ourselves.

this is true and additionally to that schools should teach you how taxes etc. work because when you go out of school you don't know shit.
some real life schooling should happen in school but hey we got sport hours instead to chill out.

What do you mean?

>not everyone is another mediocrity
>everyone/nobody understands life; it's called "perspective" (as fallible beings)
>nobody wants to change the way they trust in their knowledge (it gets harder as one ages)
>100% of professors are there because they have nowhere else to be

% of professors are there because they have nowhere else to be
take this with a grain of salt. I have a man-crush (no homo) on Matt Anderson and his awesome digital-first lectures

Engineering is literally a scam.
in my uni we have to study chemistry, engineering maths (Taylor's theorem, linear algebra etc),basic mechanical engineering, basic electrical engineering, engineering drawing, physics and so much more in the first year. I don't get the point of all this bullshit. Why can't they just start us with computer engineering related things in the first year itself instead of the second year and shorten the degree to 3 years?

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they will tell you it's for your own good and education. the real reason is that it used to be useful when we were interfacing with way lower level abstractions but now there's no incentive to update because $$$

Sure, if you're talking about learning about the world.
But if you're talking about learning how to be a person, it's bottom-up learning.

Nobody's saying to start with set theory, but you should be able to, say, prove the quadratic equation by high school as a basic measure of literacy

Students are retardes

Universities don't actually give a shit about making sure students are turned out with any kind of real understanding or reasoning ability. CS especially is just about churning masses of students out with the minimum necessary "understanding" that the university doesn't look like a total fraud. Additionally, as someone with the misfortune of going back to finish my CS masters later in life while working, the quality of the undergraduates even at a top end state school is frankly appalling; I can't believe how unironically retarded basically every CS undergrad I've run into is, so I guess it would also be disheartening as a faculty member to have to keep up with huge classes of these mongoloids. Maybe zoomers in general are all just fantastically broken both in interpersonal skills and in ability to think logically?

Honestly the smart move seems to be to just get a degree in something adjacent like physics (as I did), and learn software engineering and CS as you go.

high-speed porn fried the brains of zoomers
universities do what they can with what they get which is masses of braindead coomers. they operate the same as ever by filtering out the most stupid half but still if the whole group was drawn from retarded group then unis can't create miracles
Asia blocks porn on isp level so they're able to salvage their youth and their technology quickly progresses

>physics
Only important for the Vidya
>Chemistry
Haha what?

I thought only Korea actually banned it. China allows some state approved stuff and Japan allows it just fine with some really outdated mosaic laws on the locally sold goods.

>I thought only Korea actually banned it.
I didn't say banned. They're rightfully blocking western porn which is far more degenerate than what they allow. You could also argue that k-pop is its own kind of domestic porn. What matters is they care about their children by only making it allowable for adults. The worst addictions are created in young minds.