>ISPs pay $10,000/month for 1gbps of bandwidth
How the fuck is my internet so cheap bros???
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ISPs pay $10,000/month for 1gbps of bandwidth
Liam Peterson
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Liam Evans
maybe because people who pay for that speed, just use a fratction of it.. except for some rare autists coomers who download shit 24/7
Jason Rodriguez
We are pretty spoiled by cheap internet honestly. Then people scream net neutrality when ISPs try to make peering deals with things like Netflix because they have no idea how any of this stuff works.
It's a miracle it works at all.
Luke Smith
It says right there in the article, peering can be free.
Most major services allow free peering too, like CDNS, netflix, youtube, etc. Which is the majority of traffic.
Then, residential ISPs over-subscribe majorly.
Michael Green
They still have to pay for the bandwidth transit, it's not free to use any of those networks
Jason Hall
You aren't supposed to have a 24/7 FTP server with high traffic from a residential connection.
Some people have gotten in trouble for that over the years.
Joseph Torres
Nah, it's literally free.
Logan Morgan
That's why data caps, QoS, throttling, congestion management, etc exist.
People that think the cheap fast internet gravy train is going to be around forever are in for a rude awakening, especially as more and more developing countries get a taste for streaming video and other high bandwidth activities
Anthony Watson
>internet so cheap
Must be nice.
I'm in the US, and what I pay for 400/25 is 3x my monthly electricity bill. And I don't have some renewable energy setup, etc, it comes from a coal-fired power plant.
They send junk mail (phsyical) every 2-3 days with "urgent offers" for TV subscription bundles, etc. I always wonder how much that costs.
Adrian Cooper
I recommend reading the Peering Playback. It will open your eyes to the reality of the situation. It sounds like you want lower prices, that’s fine, but don’t latch onto the swill that cloudflare are peddling. It’s a super distorted, self-interested view.
In fact, given the scale disparity, peering with Cloudflare likely increases AWS’s marginal costs.
Ultimately, Cloudflare are a rent-seeking middleman, and antithetical to the end-to-end architecture to boot.
Connor Johnson
Unless you're paying four thousand dollars a month for that internet, it's extremely cheap
Nathaniel Richardson
meds
It's free.
Carter Kelly
>No argument
Concession accepted
Colton Nguyen
That post you copy pasted isn't even a response to me. Fuck off.
You have no idea what you're talking about, and frantically tried to find something to back up your nonsense.
Connor White
Why doesn't everyone just peer with everyone then? Obviously one peer can suffer more costs than they gain by taking on a networks traffic for free.
Jaxson Sanchez
>copypasting soinews comments
This board has really gone to the shitter.
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Evan Brown
Peering agreements often have clauses like they will exchange roughly equal traffic.
Also, money.
And Internet exchanges are filled to the brim with random ISPs trying to reduce costs.
Grayson Brown
If you actually read the book you'd know what the costs of peering are.
You have 5 Gbps of video traffic to push and your price of transit is $2 per Mbps with a 2G commit. Does it make sense to build into Sandeep's Internet Exchange if the circuit in costs $3000/mo, colo costs $1000/mo, the 10Gbps peering port costs $3000/mo and you think you can peer away 2Gbps for free at the IX?
In the first case we will pay 5000Mbps * $2/Mbps = $10,000 per month without the commit. If we peer away 2000Mbps, we pay 3000Mbps * $2/Mbps=$6000/month plus the cost of peering of $7000 per month=$13,000 per month. Peering does not make financial sense here.
Parker Green
> Peering agreements often have clauses
That's not true. From wiki
> An agreement by two or more networks to peer is instantiated by a physical interconnection of the networks, an exchange of routing information through the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) routing protocol, tacit agreement to norms of conduct and, in some extraordinarily rare cases (0.07%), a formalized contractual document.[1][2]
Tyler Peterson
>decade old post that in no way reflects reality in 2020
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>PNI don't exist
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Owen Green
That doesn't disprove what I said. If it has some insane clause you can't deal with, you won't agree in the first place.
When I was looking to peer, there were multiple large ISPs with absolutely insane requirements. Like 10s of GB/s in traffic already being exchanged between the networks. (alternative being paid transit at a steep cost)
Carson Carter
There are still costs for peering today
Cameron Parker
And?
You are so fucking retarded.
The original claim was, BANDWIDTH costs for PEERING exist.
Fuck off.
No shit, co-lo, ports, etc isn't free. That was not in contention, ever.
Jeremiah Jackson
>no one would peer with me because it'd cost them too much
Thanks got proving my point