Is there a X window manager or desktop environment that doesn't suffer from pic related?
Is there a X window manager or desktop environment that doesn't suffer from pic related?
Henry Hernandez
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Levi Green
dwm has gotten nothing but minor syntax fixes since 2008, it's feature complete.
Isaac Martinez
openbsd cwm gets an occasional update every couple of months
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Charles Sanders
What is being communicated by this picture? All I see is unintelligible memes.
Intentionally having no features does not mean it's feature complete
Jaxson Young
dwm user
based
Dominic Reyes
Just take a look at what happened to GNOME.
Instead of keeping a stable GNOME 1 or 2 base that only gets bug-fix updates and experimenting with a new separate project (GNOME 3) they had to change everything about mainline GNOME.
So what I'm asking for is a WM or DE that will stay the same even 60 years from now instead of being a victim of the dev wanting to try out something new.
Henry Gomez
GNOME is massively improved over the last 10 years, so what you're really asking for is a WM or DE that never improves and stays shitty forever
Julian Long
suckless cultists
cringe
Jordan Jones
>asking for is a WM or DE that never improves and stays shitty forever
If I need some new feature I would prefer to patch the the application myself rather than have some breaking change be introduced by upstream.
Asher Price
Good news, GNOME is open source and you can patch it to do whatever
Jace Cook
XFCE was what Linus Torvalds used until GNOME become tolerable again. XFCE is the most usable full environment AFAIK.
James Price
There is a parallel universe where GNOME2 continued the good work they were doing instead of turning an simple and efficient DE into a flashy piece of shit full of animations and terrible workflow.
In our universe that improved GNOME2 is called MATE. It is like GNOME2 never went away, it doesn't change much except to be up to date on newer libraries coming out.
In 8 years or so I've been using it, it is still the same.
Each to his own I guess, but I can't for the life of me see how GNOME3 is better:
>Desktop icons are gone, very useful to place your shortcuts in. Even smartphones have a homescreen
>Menu replaced by a fucking unusable laggy piece of shit that displays ALL installed applications with no organization whatsoever
>Every single action as a 2 second animation attached as to mask how fucking slow it is
>No taskbar, because why would you want to see and select open applications at a glance. Instead you have 4 click + 6s of animations to see open apps
I find it horribly inefficient to use. Everything requires way more time and effort to do, and feels less organized.
I guess it is popular because it behaves closer to mobile, which people are getting more and more used to.
Carter Brooks
You aren't welcome, 4channel user. You can't patch jack shit, user.
Nathan Jones
Yes, but I don't want to keep up and maintain my patches just so that they align with the changes that the GNOME devs make.
I would rather write a patch and just have it work.
That's why I would like to have a base that either only gets bug fix updates or doesn't get updates at all.
Parker Rodriguez
MATE is good too, LXQt is also another one. The fragmentation is still bad, since XFCE/MATE/LXQt basically waste developers.
Noah Hernandez
Ryan Bennett
GTK3 upgrade ruined Mate. Old great themes dont work, ugly black 1px border everywhere, widgets have inconsistent sizes out of place etc
The power manager is ass and also the terminal sucks donkey balls
I wish someone just started a gnome 2 fork
Daniel Perry
>Desktop icons
>Menu
>Taskbar
You don't need any of that and if you really do you can add them back in with extensions
>Animations
Can be turned off
Yes you can. Open a text editor, edit the source and then hit save, it's not hard
>Yes, but I don't want to keep up and maintain my patches just so that they align with the changes that the GNOME devs make.
You have to do this on any project that is actively developed
>That's why I would like to have a base that either only gets bug fix updates
Bug fixes are changes and they can interfere with your patches too
>or doesn't get updates at all.
Any project that isn't getting updates usually needs a full time developer or two to start maintaining it again, so have fun with that
Aaron Cox
>Desktop icons are gone, very useful to place your shortcuts in. Even smartphones have a homescreen
Desktop icons are useless junk, if you use them you're retarded
>Menu replaced by a fucking unusable laggy piece of shit that displays ALL installed applications with no organization whatsoever
You can organize them how you want
>Every single action as a 2 second animation attached as to mask how fucking slow it is
Wrong, your PC is just a piece of shit
>No taskbar, because why would you want to see and select open applications at a glance. Instead you have 4 click + 6s of animations to see open apps
Literally one button press/gesture to show activities
Baby duck syndrome retard
Nolan Mitchell
XFCE is mostly dead development-wise, so not much wast there.
LXQt I guess so, but it has a slightly different philosophy in that it uses QT instead of GNOME, so I think there is a place for both.
LXQt might be kind of a lifeboat in the future depending how things go in the GTK land, plus it also has much less legacy code so might be easier to port to Wayland or whatever comes next.
I'm still on MATE but it's good knowing LXQt is healthy.
Xavier Ross
xfce still looks the same as it did fifteen years ago
Lucas Rivera
>Yes you can. Open a text editor, edit the source and then hit save, it's not hard
you mean hit save then get cancelled in the gnome file saving dialog?
epic proportions, truly the future. don't like it, kode it urselve brah
Grayson Sanchez
There's quite literally no reason not to use the latest versions of software.
Robert Morgan
What the fuck are you trying to say, just use emacs or some shit who cares
Josiah Long
k brb updooting