>Be me
>leading small team doing research, 1st meeting
>ask people to come up with 1 short proposal for things they might want to work on,
>it's only got to be a paragraph long and they can bring it next meeting.
>1 person freaks out that they're being overworked by this.
>A second person loudly announces that they quit.
>mfw next meeting more than half the team decided to quit a funded research position because i asked them to brainstorm an idea and explain it with at least 1 paragraph of detail.
>fuck ivy leagues.
Be me
Blake Hill
Liam Baker
>give unreasonable amount of work to coworkers
>they leave
>waaaah waaah waaah
Nobody likes a douchebag
Juan Wright
it's only a paragraph long and they can write literally anything and they had examples of really straightforward ideas. I'm not sure what less I can ask desu. It's honestly the flimsiest and easiest thing i could think of to ask besides nothing at all.
Dominic Sanders
Shouldn't have specified a paragraph long. Also, "doing research" is vague as fuck. Maybe the group could have come to a conclusion through discussion right there in the moment like what to go for - biological research, engineering, hardware, animals, w/e
Is it really a funded research with absolutely no baseline or scope? Feels like getting paid to throw darts at a wall.
David Taylor
Maybe just ask them to pitch what proposals or ideas they have in a meeting and work together to build upon that idea instead of making it like a highschool homework? That way everyone can say everything they want to say in real time? No one likes homeworks.
Jacob Nelson
You in grad school or what kind of research is this? What you're experiencing is pretty typical of fresh out of high school college freshmen, amplified by zoomer entitlement, laziness, and stupidity. They have effectively filtered themselves out of anything greater than minimum wage since they are guaranteed to drop out by the second semester.
Evan Morales
working as a zoomer must be nice
i got bullied/taken advantage gen xers and boomers. if we pulled this shit we got canned
Easton Hernandez
>>be me
>>don't actually do work, just be a bureaucrat
>>"hey guise can you stop doing actual work and wrote me an essay I can file as proof off my bureaucratic busywork?? thx!!"
OP being a useless faggot as per usual
Aiden Rogers
>Is it really a funded research with absolutely no baseline or scope?
It's ML research, the task they were asked to do was pick 1 technique they would like to try to increase performance of an ML model which is a the core of the project, and write what metrics they want to use to determine improvement. Techniques were given in supplementary material if they couldn't think of any. It was only meant to be an exercise they perform during the training period so they could get practice writing proposals.
>like a highschool homework?
Nobody likes work? i mean idk, there should be some work involved in a university research position, you need to actually research something. You can't just disorganizedly conduct experiments without explaining the goals and procedures first. If you're gonna propose research alternatives you really should do your homework first, especially if it's only half a page long.
ML research. Actually it's grad students, not phd, just masters. A research component is required for them to graduate the masters program.
Asher Sanchez
Idk I'm having a hard time of it myself. Of all the people it really feels like me and another guy were the only people actually doing anything, and he's leaving so it's just me now. I'm really thinking of leaving too. I didn't want to work in a daycare. i wanted to make people under me feel like they were in charge of their work, like it wasn't something i was dictating to them because i didn't want them to "check out" so to speak, like i was ordering them to do everything. But i guess the stress of making an active decision, even one i promised them had no consequences, that was too much stress for them too early maybe.
I actually have built the majority of the system myself. It's actually just me and one other guy who seem to contribute all of the code and planning for the experiments and projects. I've asked people to do something simple like calculate medians elementwise on a matrix and instead of taking a week it took them 3 months and they failed. So i decided to do it myself and did it within 6 hours. It really feels like the opposite way around.