Is anyone old enough to remember what dating was like before dating apps and social media took off...

Is anyone old enough to remember what dating was like before dating apps and social media took off? Was it easier for average and ugly men to find average and ugly female counterparts?

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I mean I feel like most people dated what was in their proximity. But with the advent of the internet and dating apps you can now find what is the top percentage of guy that is like 20 miles away who youd probably never met if not for dating apps. So yes dating was easier before the internet due to the fact people had to make amends with what they got

Datings apps are only half the problem. The other half of the problem is obesity.

I am an oldfag, and when I was in high school there were "average" girls who were thin that you could date as an "average" guy. Now that simply doesn't exist. Now ALL thin girls are in high demand and there are NO thin girls you can date unless you are well above average as a guy.

You could get rid of dating apps tomorrow, and the problem wouldn't fix itself unless you did something to forcibly starve at least two thirds of all fat girls and restore them to human size. There just aren't enough non-fat girls to go around for "average" guys to date them, no matter how you set up communication.

Yeah, I remember it very vividly. No, it was much harder for average and ugly men to find their counterpart. Some stuff is the same, but a lot has changed drastically.
>if you were even the slightest bit "off" you were bullied
>if you were a nerd or geek in the conventional sense without any aptitude in sports and looked average or below average, it was completely over for you and you probably knew nothing but immense pain of never even being looked at and were bullied relentlessly for being weird
>most people that were bullied stayed inside, with their small friend group away from everyone else, or by themselves
>99.999999999% of the time guys had to initiate so if you were shy you were double fucked
>getting a girl's number meant you'd have to call her landline and therefore go through the gauntlet of her family if she wasn't expecting your call at a specific time
>her family members could run interference for her and say she wasn't there (repeat this infinite times until you get the message or her mom / dad tells you to pretty much give up)
>if they didn't have caller ID you'd have to leave a message to let her know but her entire family would probably listen to it
>if you somehow got her out of the clutches of her house you always had to go inside and wait around her family in a super awkward meet and greet
>before you left her dad would pretty much always imply or explicitly state he'll brutally kill you if anything happens
>most girls got their ideas about men from music, books, magazines, television, and movies (this includes what is and isn't attractive) so you still had to be relatively good looking
Now, you can bypass all of this, hop on your computer or phone, and engage with them right here and now. It's infinitely easier nowadays to meet medium to ugly women. The only plus side back then is that everyone was pretty much socialized for the most part unless they were saddled with some severe mental illness.

.999999999% of the time guys had to initiate so if you were shy you were double fucked
I mean, that still is the case, isn't it?

Actually, this too. There were fat people and maybe like one or two obese people but everyone was thin or in pretty good shape for the most part. Current year is a nightmare when it comes to average weight.

>Was it easier for average and ugly men to find average and ugly female counterparts?
Hell no, it was worse
Back then you would go out, try and chat up a girl, and she would try and keep you on the hook to pay for her drinks before she would jump on Chads arm right in front of you
If you think sitting at home and getting no matches is bad just imagine what that's like, going out, spending time and money, only to get cucked right to your face, you guys couldn't handle it

So Chad always dominated? If an average dude wanted and average to ugly girl they would lose?

Somewhat, but it's much more socially acceptable for women to engage first. I mean hell, I'm approached. I mean, I'll still approach sometimes but you really don't have to put in the work like back then. It's hard to explain. You pretty much had to woo them in some fashion but strictly in person because, well, when are you going to see them again? There were a lot of show offs back then for this reason, which is where the phrase "hold my beer" came from. It's a completely different landscape in terms of how the interactions work.
Brooooooooo, I ran out of space before I could address this on my previous reply. This is a fucking huge one. Going out was a fucking nightmare for a lot of guys. Robots and incels would've roped on the spot after a night of being repeatedly cucked. Watching that shit happen was fucking brutal.

>Actually, this too. There were fat people and maybe like one or two obese people but everyone was thin or in pretty good shape for the most part. Current year is a nightmare when it comes to average weight.

Right, that's why I don't understand the "it was worse" posters.

Girls 21 and under who are thin are fuckable in almost every case, NO MATTER WHAT. The number of exceptions is too small to worry about. A social situation where there are girls who are thin who think they are below average is better for average guys than any other scenario, just on that basis alone.