28 years old

I haven't talked to a girl since I graduated high-school which was 10 years ago. I just assumed girls don't like me because I am a 5'10" manlet and have an ugly face.
I just focused on myself like Any Forums said.

man I'd like to bite into her melons hahahaha

I'd love to squeeze her melons if you know what I mean

i bought it

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Work from home has changed everything. If you have the option of working in the office, your chances of meeting someone improve drastically. It might not be someone working there, but people generally love playing matchmaker. Also, forget about clubs and apps. Only whores there. You have to get out of your house with a group of friends to do stuff if you want to meet women. "Stuff" is anything that you enjoy that involves other people like tennis, pickleball, classes, rec clubs, anything. You won't meet girls while playing COD in your basement.

I enjoy hiking and reading books but there is no possibility of meeting girls.

imagine walking up to her and saying "nice melons" and then smiling and walking away that'd be so funny haha

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What people on this board don’t realize is that it’s literally just as simple as talking to women with some form of confidence to get laid. I’m a completely dyel (started training 3 months ago so give me a break) skinnyfat guy with an unremarkable face. My body count is in the fucking 20s though because I just fucking talk to women and make a move. I’ve literally ranted to a girl about Deleuze for two hours on a date before and we still fucking banged (because she thought I was smart and that impressed her)
The only fucking thing you need to do is go out there and talk to them. Life’s not fair, you’re not a gigachad that women throw themselves at, but it’s still the easiest thing in the world to fucking get laid Jesus Christ

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it's not weird. U focused on your career.
When u want a girl, go outside and meet them.

>I’m a completely dyel (started training 3 months ago so give me a break) skinnyfat guy with an unremarkable face
How tall are you?

and she saying: "want a taste?" hahaha

Not OP, but how do I even get myself to a position where trying is an option? I don't know how to meet girls, or at least not the sort of girls I'd be interested in. I'm not into the sort of whoreish, big titty e-girls that get posted here all the time. I just want to meet a normal woman who is fun to talk to and isn't a completely empty airhead. Attractiveness matters to me very little.
People always tell me I should go to the library to find the sort of girl I'm interested in, but that only creates new problems. No one goes to the library to get approached by random strangers (at least I don't), and the atmosphere of libraries actively discourages talking. I feel like I missed a huge opportunity by not taking advantage of my university's library while I was in college, because now my only option is to go to public libraries, which are mostly just full of old people and the homeless.

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Hi Austrian ginger, nice to see you making a few tweaks to your lifestory again.

>I’ve literally ranted to a girl about Deleuze for two hours on a date before and we still fucking banged (because she thought I was smart and that impressed her)

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6‘2 which is completely unremarkable though in my country (average is 6‘1)

go to a bookstore

lol fuck off faggot, stop pretending to be me. I'm 5'9, 5'10 maybe if I really stand up straight.

okay guys not joking this time
this is literally me

No, that isn’t how you tell if watermelons are ripe. Watermelons are quite hard, you would really only be able to squeeze them if they were rotten, and then you should be able to tell they’re rotten by sight or smell.

yeah. what you said makes no sense.
If you are not good looking you literally cannot do what you're saying in current year.

Why not join a book club or forum, or like a creative writing course
You would also be surprised by the amount of academics on dating platforms

Like a normie bookstore or a small independent one? The only bookstores near me are Barnes and Noble (big and normie) or some sort of Feminist Theory bookstores (small and faggy). I don't think I'd want to meet women from the latter, but it would probably have a higher concentration of women my age.

>user joins a book club
>talks about edgy biographies and political books
that's not a good idea

I know I'm currently begging and about to choose, but I really really really don't want to meet a girl online, whether it be through a forum or dating app. Especially not a dating app. They seem so disgustingly disingenuous to me, like you're just putting a picture of yourself in the classified section of a newspaper and hoping as many people see it as possible. I'm only 24, but I still remember growing up and having the concept of meeting someone online be a totally outlandish idea that most people thought would end up in a murder suicide. It just isn't for me, even though I know that limits my options severely in this day and age.

just do the boomhauer method and ask out every woman you see. eventually one will say yes and you'll get confidence gains even on the ones that reject you

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I’ve been dumped by women before for guys that were way smaller than me. You are afraid of rejection so you make up reasons in your head why it’s not worth trying. You don’t know it but you’re creating your own blackpill hugbox because your narcissism is stronger than loneliness

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You both said that you like to read, but you didn't read or understand Do activities with people. It doesn't matter what as long as it is a shared interest. I bet those noodle-armed Antifa rioters go home with a hairy feminist bitch at the end of a good night of blocking an expressway simply because they were in a group of like-minded people. Don't read a book in your basement, join a book club. Don't hike by yourself, look at REI's calendar and go on a group hike. Even if you just start doing stuff with guys, eventually one will bring a girl around, then she'll bring her friends around.

>I am tall and get girls
Dubs and you are brutally gangraped and murdered by a group of arabs.

I admire your attempt but the guy you're responding to is severely mentally ill and has been making these same posts for well over a year. You aren't going to save him.

Sauce on those melons?

water

>Even if you just start doing stuff with guys, eventually one will bring a girl around
I studied computer science and now work in tech. I have never met a guy or coworker who had any female friends. I think God is actively trying to let me never interact with women.

I put that I love hiking and camping in my bio on bumble and met my wife sorry bro try harder.

>Any Forums - Fitness

I’m older than you and it also took me a while to try online dating. The truth is, most people are shy and online dating gives them the opportunity to say „hey pls talk to me“. But don’t worry, there’s still opportunities to meet elsewhere, it’s just harder for you to spot them the less experienced you are

>I just fucking talk to women and make a move
Where do you meet women?

>>Masters in computer science
>>make six-figs as a programmer
These two points are negatives so when you net it off, all you really have is being 28.

looks > height > money > personality
sure you don't need all four if you score highly in one category. But most average people on here score very lowly in one and don't do well in the others.

???

Most of them where off of tinder or bumble. I’ve also met girls (in the sense that we started dating) through mutual friends, at concerts, bars, university and nowadays through my work

unironically great advice. the problem you need to fight your inner demons to make a first step... or just drink some alcohol not so much but enough to loosen up

>I studied computer science and now work in tech
>it must be God's fault I'm not meeting any women

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>99% of men meet girls naturally through friends
>I am in the 1% who never even sees any
I am so tired of this world. Just a month ago a coworker throwed a big birthday party with 18 people. ALL OF THEM WERE MEN WORKING IN IT.

>body count is in the fucking 20s
With an average rating of what, 4?

know your pain. also working in man-only job(seaman) 6(sometimes even more) months at sea 6(sometimes even less) months at home. i doomed to be alone

>also working in man-only job(seaman)
yeah I bet it's man-only

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What's it like? And where?

idk what are you implying but it is. i know somewhere women work at ship but so far only men for me lol or you are talking about fags yeah they exist pinoys mostly kek

probably on the ocean if I had to guess

He means semen. Sea-men, semen.

Got me, I guess.

>What's it like?
shit job but pays well for my shithole.
>where
uhm everywhere :D

Alaska? Norway?

hehe semen. okay seafarer

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low social IQ

Guys, what did he mean by this?

>Alaska
been there. dutch harbor.

Do you know of that crab fishing show that's based around there? Know any of those dudes? Do you have an end goal in sight?

Your personality must suck. I'm a fat, ugly poorfag missing my 2 front teeth and complete Any Forums schizo and have great success with women because of my personality traits. You can't outlift bwing boring.

post face
post social anxiety level

You forgot to mention your lack of reading comprehension

Doesn't matter had sex

fpbp

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It does matter.

i bet all of those women are fat and/or ugly

>Know any of those dudes?
ofc no lol
>Do you have an end goal in sight?
asking myself all the time

hey weirdo, the picture was pleasant, so I thought I could talk to you about this personal shit just for the hell of it. I once was a jobber in this sport, now I feel satisfied and retired. I can listen or share, whatever

More than likely. But if the fact that not kissing a bitch is so concerning to OP, then he needs to shit or get off the pot since there's a fucking meat market right on his doorstep.

not like this robobros :c

sweaty booba

It’s because you are a coward OP.
You can do all that, but you can even get a little peck on the lips?

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Becoming a millionaire is ten times easier than getting a girl to kiss you.

A 4 is many times greater than 0

But however you need to cope user

Maybe because you're a humongous faggot, a boy molesting fruit, prancing lala homoman that likes to complain in fitness boards about how much of a great catch you are while you're some Elliott Roger mothefucker.
Kill yourself.

>I fucked an ugly fat chick, you're the loser kek
This is you. Cope as needed, unironically

Allow me to help you user. Since you are an engineer, you understand math and statistics

Step one: clean up. Shower, shave, haircut. Get clothes that fit and look good

Step two: go to the places that have the girls you like (book stores, the mall, clubs, rave parties etc)

Step three: find a girl you think is cute, once you make eye contact (IE the girl is aware that you are looking at her). Go approach her, you have three seconds to do this (any longer and you are now a creep who stares at her)

Step four: approach her with confidence (chest up, shoulders back, smile smile smile and make eye contact)

Step five: use this script (make little changes as you need to fit your situation)

>excuse me, sorry to interrupt, I’ve only got a second to talk, but if I didn’t come over and say something to you, I would be kicking myself later. You are so gorgeous you have actually stopped me in my tracks. Can I get your number so I can message you later and we can get to know each other?

That’s it. That is literally all you do.

She will say one of three things
1: yes (maybe)
2: no (rarely)
3: literally anything else that isn’t yes “sorry I have a boyfriend” (most common)

If the answer isn’t yes. It’s no. At which point you say
>well he is a lucky guy, hope you have a good day

Now here is the math part
Do this approach 10 times. You will get 1 phone number
Get 10 phone numbers, you will get 1 date
Get 10 dates. You will get 1 sex

As you get better at doing this. Those numbers will change in your favor. Especially if you start going to gym.

There it is. That is your plan.
I have done this many times, and I have gotten laid by 17 different woman. Since the average American man fucks 7 woman in life, I’m doing way better.

Good luck.

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>You are so gorgeous you have actually stopped me in my tracks.
This is some ESL type shit

Because you don't romantically pursue women.
Just like any other self described "incel" (they don't exist btw).

Just go to a dance class, faggot. Yeah dancing is gay but usually they do rotations where you get to dance with dozens of girls practicing the movements. This will help cure your autism. Once you have danced with enough girls you will start to talk to them without it being a massive struggle and you don't even have to "ask them out" in the sense of it being a stressful confrontation.

Esl?

Didn't read your word vomit but:
>excuse me, sorry to interrupt, I’ve only got a second to talk, but if I didn’t come over and say something to you, I would be kicking myself later. You are so gorgeous you have actually stopped me in my tracks. Can I get your number so I can message you later and we can get to know each other?
Isn't getting numbers unless you're talking to insecure hamplanets that won't tune you out after the first line.
If you're going to do the "upfront" approach, keep it simple
>You're cute, I'd like to buy you a coffee and get to know you.

How to rave party please

OP btfo

Haha, WHICH melons though? There's more than one kind of melon in that picture if you catch my drift ;^)

>>excuse me, sorry to interrupt, I’ve only got a second to talk, but if I didn’t come over and say something to you, I would be kicking myself later. You are so gorgeous you have actually stopped me in my tracks. Can I get your number so I can message you later and we can get to know each other?

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How do I approach girls in settings like work, clubs, church, etc?
I have no problem approaching girls in public settings when I know the minute I leave I'll never see them again (ie: house parties, malls, etc). But when you do it in settings where you regularly see each other, you have to be more tactful and I have no idea how since I tend to just be blunt with girls.

What are you suppose to talk to women about? I swear I have nothing in common with 99% of them.

I would much rather be alone than deal with ugly fat women.

Talk to them about whatever you want. Women are submissive, and if they like you they'll be interested in whatever you have to say.
Besides, hobbies aren't even important. What you guys should be on the same page about is moral standards.

>30
>going back to school to learn CS
>in shape but dyel for Any Forums
>bodycount in the 50s, lots of long term relationship too
Dont fell for the dumb stuff you read on here. Women are the same as you and me, they all long for intimacy, hapiness, joy, thrill, sex, creative endeavour, etc. Treat them as you would treat your friends. If you dont have any, read up about social skills and max out your empathy skills especially.
Good luck user.

>t. tall and handsome charming guy

this. everytime i ask guys with claims like this their height, its always 6'+, and they are delusional in thinking that its their personality that got them laid, not their looks

Cool?

I am 27 and have no degree.
Might drop out of dentistry school this year.

Fuck lads what do I do??? I am intelligent, a hard worker but a sloth when I have no goals in mind.
Reason why I'm dropping out is my boomer parents kiked me into paying my own unaffordable tuition.

>how do I even get myself to a position where trying is an option? I don't know how to meet girls, or at least not the sort of girls I'd be interested in

so fucking relatable, the last two girls i liked were so amazing but i had no chance to get closer to them (first one was a virtual thing, i screwed up, and the second one an student at my college but from another career and semester, i also screwed up even worse). I also been isolated for so long that im getting in corners man, feels bad and idk what to do, where to go. i've made so many wrongs, but i just dont want to give up

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>bodycount in the 50s, lots of long term relationship too
>30
What’s “lots” of “long term” relationships for you? I would assume 4+ would be “lots” and a “long term” relationship would be at least going to 2 years meaning about 8 years were long relationships. And if that’s the case assuming you lost your virginity around like 15 then you got laid 50+ times in a 7 year period?

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whenever a girl will find out what you have they will throw themselves at you. esepcially the ones who want to settle. so learn the fucking game or you will get played and cucked. fag. stay away from single mothers

you are 27 with no degree. you claim yourself to be intelligent. fucking kek. do yorserlf a favor and do a relity check

>>excuse me, sorry to interrupt, I’ve only got a second to talk, but if I didn’t come over and say something to you, I would be kicking myself later. You are so gorgeous you have actually stopped me in my tracks. Can I get your number so I can message you later and we can get to know each other?

nigga are you a fucking npc from oblivion

I made retarded life choices, I come from an abusive household. When I left home, I thought I had life figured out but didn't and overestimated myself. I worked for a few years, then decided to go to uni.
A better word would have been good at absorbing information quickly. You're right.

How do men even get dates these days? I'm currently on 3 dating apps and get zero matches with attractive women. Pic related is from photofeeler, so evidently I'm not ugly. I think part of my problem may be that I live in midwest USA where 95% of single women are obese, so there are lots of fit men competing for an increasingly tiny pool of dateable women.

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Go to places to meet them in person, much higher luck in my experience, if you’re not super attractive in pictures at least

Notice how the incels immediately shift goalposts to contain the cognitive dissonance straining their deranged minds. They are but bitter husks and this is why they will never have sex.

sorry to hear about your upbringing user. it's hard but try not to dwell on the past, don't overanalyze the future either. break things down into tiny goals and just do whatever next small step feels right for you in the moment. eventually it might start to snowball into something meaningful, and by then you'll feel as though it's truly yours instead of something your parents/teachers/friends/etc tried to force on you (like dentistry).

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Seconding this.
How can I find out if a girl is interested at work without directly asking and making it all weird?

Do not risk your income and career for some pussy. Imagine the drama if it doesnt work out.

I already feel like this is what I want, but for some retarded reason (me) I didn't act earlier and thought that i finally "made it" (IE getting my degree and going to work).

No idea where to go from here, really. U would like to know how I can still build a nice future for myself and not become a wagedrone. Coding? Webdesign?

This is honestly quite funny.

Im 6'0, but of course I am charming. But I'm not model-tier handsome - I know some guys like that, and Im not.

Im not saying its all about being Nice. Im saying that being sensitive and compassionate rarely fucked me over.

Find something you find intesting. I went for CS cuz it looks like fun.

You got the maths right, but i was in relationships for maybe 6 years, not 8.

youre a huge fucking baby holy shit
im in dental school too and im currently in 400k debt but im not a pussy ass bitch that is afraid of pixels on a computer screen

youre going to be making bank and live a good lifestyle all while helping others

pretty sure youre a fucking liar anyway no way a bitch like you would even pass an interview

step one would be to stop berating yourself. it sounds stupid but believe me, you don't realize how much that attitude actually infects the rest of your day. if you assume you're going to fuck something up before you start, then you're going to convince yourself to never start as a way to protect yourself from possible future pain. the truth is that nobody gets a guarantee that they'll be successful or happy in life

What this guy said, I never understood 'don't shit where you eat,' till I unintentionally did it. Not a coworker but a regular girl that'd come in to where I work. I fell for her immediately the moment I saw her and it wasn't even just
>I wanna break her
but more of a 'I really wanna take responsibility of her.'
It didn't work out and I just felt weird throughout worried she'd come in but also still wanting her to come in felt fucking horrible. I literally acted like I never saw her come in when she did come in. You don't want that. The stupid shit though is because I started ignoring her SHE started trying to get my attention afterwards.

>Any Forums physique

Post body. I'm always curious when this is self-proclaimed here what it tends to mean for anons

Same here user
Same here
Self-made millionaire twice also. Made every dime I had by myself
>be literal 8/10
>young
>fit body
>socially inept to the point of no return
>KHHV

Is pussy really even worth it? It just feels like so much effort to make a dating profile, get a bunch of professionally shot photos taken, have a social media profile where I show myself doing cool shit expressly for the sake of making my profile look better, then having to navigate hundreds of hours of texting and sit through whatever dates they amount to and deal with getting rejected many times over. I can see why a lot of guys will just marry the first person that shows them any interest.

>400k in debt
>think's he's making it
lol way to be in forever debt homey.

NTA but would the same concept apply in churches?
I'm looking for a wife, but I don't want things to get weird if I date a girl and things don't work out.

TRT now

>It just feels like so much effort to make a dating profile
Because it is.
Dating sites are an utter waste of time. Make friends with people and get them to introduce you to girls instead. That's how normal people get hitched.

the problem is that you think you are charming, when its more of a reflection of your looks. if a short average guy tried doing everything you did to be charming, he would not get the response you have gotten. this shit has been studied constantly, look up the halo effect. but it gets dismissed as incel demoralization

I'd be happy just to have the new friends if I ever managed to pull that off, but as a guy outside of the college student age range it seems just as daunting as finding dates online.

we dont have interview in my country

I didn't know it was still this obvious but yeah I ought to stop feeling sorry for myself.

Fuck are you fillipino?

brother you cant even imagine getting out of that much debt because youve been poor your entire life and your frame of reference to everything is through being a poor fuck with poor friends

Just change church worst case, much less drama than a job that you need to pay bills.
Just beware of born again virgins, those girls are nuts and used to be big sluts but cope with Jesus.

How do I be entertaining? I've never been a circus acrobat or an Alaskan bush pilot like a normal person so all my stories are boring. Like you know when a woman gives you a chance Like she's saying "go on entertain me" with her eyes but my jokes fall flat and my stores and anecdotes don't impress.

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>we dont have interview in my country
ok nevermind then youre in a third world shithole where dentists are no better than construction workers

if they lock one of you up, is it seaman retention?

im a euroid

yes a third world shithole

>user gets a goes into a good career field so he can have a good job and not be perpetually unemployed or underpaid
>this is apparently his fault

>I used to think this was just exaggeration but now I'm starting to think maybe the psychopathic men are the only ones with the confidence to attempt to attract women.
Basically. The game is biased towards manipulative people.

>I only have $ -400 000 because I'm rich
it didn't even begin

What graduate degree should I pursue? I'm 29 years old and have spent the last 4 years working at a University post, which I regret and am ready to move on, but feel there is nothing to move on to so I may as well continue with education.

You don't get it. I'll just leave it at that.

Just make friends with your coworkers. Invite them out for drinks, hikes, shooting, or whatever you're into.
Many people relocate to a different province or country entirely and have to start from scratch. There are people with lifelong friends that met at work and not in school.
It's completely in the realm of achievable pursuits. You just need to put yourself out there and not hide from people.

also skin colour. probably a 5’2 pajeet

you misunderstand
that -400k isnt total net worth. it is a single debt

I'm currently attending a TLM catholic church so the idea of "born again" is devoid here. That's not to assume that there aren't non virgin girls here either, they just cope with confessionals instead.
It's a good suggestion but I don't have any other options for attending another TLM church and I am not enthused about NO catholic churches.

>Make friends with people and get them to introduce you to girls instead.
that's like 10x the effort of making a decent profile

hypotheticals

My life is boring too so I impress girls with knowledge of topics beyond their understanding.
That's my go to at least. Doesn't hurt to pick up some hobbies, not to impress girls but rather to satisfy your own self fulfillment

I guess if socializing isn't your strong point.
I'm terrible with small talk myself but I tend to make friends with guys quite easily for whatever reason.
Still no gf though because I'm 50lbs overweight (originally 80lbs, long story) and I want to get back down to a reasonable weight before I feel comfortable with myself again.

Don't know about dental Dan by the time I passed the bar I had a little under $280k in debt. Now I have a net worth of ~$730k.

I know I'm not ugly, otherwise for sure I wouldnt have had as much success. But I spend enough time in here or on incel forums to be 100% sure that most people on it are not ugly as sin; they'll always find some retarded stuff like weak jaw, receding hairlines or whatnot to justify hating on themselves and/or women instead of facile honest human interaction.

>I've never been a circus acrobat or an Alaskan bush pilot like a normal person
Fucking kek, so true.
I just try to let the other person "pick a topic" and talk first and then I usually know enough about the subject or something related to it to keep talking.

none of those things are particularly impressive. have you tried not being a loser that women dont like?

Based moralization poster.
How'd you end up with that bodycount? Drunken one night stands?

>and I want to get back down to a reasonable weight before I feel comfortable with myself again.
Famous last words (last as in before it's over).

kek based retard

i don't hate myself/women. in fact contrary to a lot of posters i have gotten laid despite being 5'7 and average. but the fact is from what i have noticed attractive and/or taller men can pull girls with way more ease than i have. people rag on incels a lot(some of it warranted), but a lot of the research they reference points to the trend that taller/attractive men have it a lot easier in dating. so when you say 'i charming which is the reason i have gotten laid so much', i would argue its more your looks than being charming(not that being charming doesn't have an effect)

Why would you say something like that

>Any Forums physique
Well there's your problem

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Alright you fucks, let me lay out how you work on lady gains:
Donate blood/platelets
>no guys
>ladies touching your arm
>other people there to chat up
>phlebotomists may be dateable, at least practice for interacting with women
Intramural sports
>I picked ultimate Frisbee
>got a frolf date with the captain today
Volunteer
>get out somewhere and have a reason to be around people
>try to do it at like a hospital or somewhere women are
Make and hang out with friends
>start branching out your friend group
>make your friends friends your friends
>keep doing this until you reach women

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Oops, meant to say "no gays" with the blood

I'd try both for a start, but yeah you already figured out which one is probably better.

Lol i explained it like this to a friend/co worker of mine who had recently split with his long time high school girlfriend and never been in the game before. He was all psyched and then he realized he wasn't getting 10% success rate (which i just threw out as a random number) and it fucking shattered his world because the numbers didn't check out. He ended up never scoring and getting back with his gf later.

We're engineers btw.

>burgers don't have the tiny, chock full antique book stores on every corner
>probably not even the wagons
sad

you are probably ugly as sin and short, lose your shyness and flaunt your wealth in excess until a golddigger sticks by your side (who you will never be sure if she's having an affair) or die virgin