It feels like men who only know dating from the context of a swipe app are the ones who get black pilled. But they dont realize that this is not reality, just look at the gender ratio on most of those apps its around 6 men for every woman, so of course women are going to have ridiculous standards. If you look at irl dating you see tons of below average looking guys with cute/hot girls.
Another thing, men are naturally are more looks driven than women. Women tend to evaluate a man based on all attributes (looks, charisma, success, intelligence, fitness, social status, etc). One thing some men tend to do is project their own looks obsessed coombrains on to women. If you are a guy who thinks looks are the only thing that matter then you have made the mistake of believing that women think like men, but this is not the case. Attraction is more complex with women. But the problem with using dating apps is they are entirely looks based, which is fine for a guy selecting women since we will use the same looks-centric criteria in IRL dating too, but it presents a problem for women selecting men since they can only use looks to evaluate someone, which results in her rejecting men on dating apps that she would not have rejected if they met irl.
I dont think its a coincidence that Tinder got popular right around the time that the incel movement became mainstream. Tinder skews mens perceptions on how women think and makes you feel like you have to be some chiseled 6ft 2 gigachad just to date.
Also there's that UK study that says less than 10% of young adults have tried to use dating apps to actually meet anyone. At best, they swipe a few times and text a few people. But for the most part, people still meet through real interactions, hobbies, or networks. On instagram if you are dm'ing someone you most likely already connect on something like a hobby or friends.
Lincoln Peterson
so what you're saying is, if you're an ugly socially retarded shut in with no friends you're still fucked and extroverted chads still win.
Alexander Morales
dating apps are full of mentally ill women with laundry lists of neurotic, BPD standards.
Aiden Scott
>Women tend to evaluate a man based on all attributes (looks, charisma, success, intelligence, fitness, social status, etc).
>ugly doesn't really matter >socially retarded yikes, oof, ITS OVER >shut in with no friends these types of people simply don't care and don't have the brain cells to care. you're strawmanning hard.
Nathaniel Campbell
did you not stop to consider that someone might become a shut in because of society treating them like shit for being ugly and socially retarded? do you not see the difference and why chad harems exist on and offline? good looking people have a positive feedback loop and confidence from a young age, people like us have the opposite and you get the feeling that you'd be happier indulging in escapism than being around a society that hates you for shit out of your control. so chad wins no matter what.
Henry Howard
They are part of society. The moment they stop treating themselves like shit, this argument is DEBUNKED. You're also forgetting that everyone got negative feedback.
Joseph Reyes
Being around people on both sides of the spectrum (I think they call it ugly duckling syndrome or some shit) is what made me beyond cynical of humanity in general. Thats not to say I act like an edgelord, I just expect nothing but stupidity and headache from others regardless of circumstances. Thankfully I met exceptions but the point still stands. Most people objectively suck, myself included. Does not matter it they are beautiful or a leper, and for all you know the ones who do not could be putting on an act.
women do not get negative feedback from men. maybe other catty women but not from men at large. people in general are insanely shallow and treat ugly and different people like trash. every single sex haver here >"oh well yeah i guess i had and still have a lot of friends" "yeah women approached me young, isn't that normal?" "bro you just have to get out there!" "even though i never had to actually work or try to have sex or friends because this shit literally comes normally and naturally to people who aren't genetic trash like you."
Hudson Lopez
You're projecting. Stop being shallow, stop treating ugly people like trash, and you'll be fine.
Chase Stewart
so you're a failed normalfag who's too lazy to use what you were given at birth for free.
Jayden Wilson
i would have to be approached by people or have any sort of social group to begin with to treat them like trash. i've been bullied at worst and completely invisible at best my entire life.
Samuel Bell
i think so, that wheat waffles guy got all his data from dating app stuff. While it might apply to the dating market in general, i doubt the situation is as dire as the blackpillers say
Jackson Diaz
You can call it whatever you want, my point still stands.
>you see tons of below average looking guys with cute/hot girls. Yeah. They're uniformly guys who met their gf in high school/college, we are already way past that point
Alexander James
Women get even more negative feedback. Social media causes a ton of depression among young girls. Statistically it seems that the concept of positive feedback applies to men more than women.
I could probably assume you got ruined by porn, but you contradicted your own arguments. If your only problem is that you are "ugly" trash (tm) then you would date ugly girls and be in a community of ugly people. If you're so confident that women are never ugly or that they are all "shallow" then just go gay, nothing will ever fix the actual root cause of your retardation. Anything that proves you wrong will just make you talk about looks and shallow shit.
Joseph Roberts
i mean "enlightened" chads like you are pretty common on here. in fact every chad on here shits on women and people at large behind their backs. almost like being good looking naturally leads to being a narcissist or something because people literally treat you better because of your looks. therefore you think you cracked the code because even though you're a shitty person, you still get rewarded plenty.
Adrian Cruz
How many hours do you spend every day at parties / social events? If you believe you are single because of other peoples choices, you would spend the exact same time as everyone else in social, open environments. I suspect you "gave up" after being a selfish prick for too many years.
Jayden Nelson
>Statistically it seems that the concept of positive feedback applies to men more than women It's a rarity thing. Most men get so little feedback at all but feel happy about 1 girl saying they liked their shirt 5 years ago, women will get 500 guys saying they're the most beautiful girl in the universe every day and one saying she looks chubby & they'll focus on that.
Elijah Walker
Do you have anything else to think about other than your looks? What do you have that anyone would even give a shit about?
Jonathan Murphy
my looksmatch would never settle for me because women can afford to date up and men routinely date down. you are incredibly naive my friend. also social media does not stop women from having plenty of relationships and sex young, they torture themselves over not being good enough when men literally do not care and will date women leagues below them.
Dylan Davis
Subhumans like us have never been invited to a party or social event you retard
Chase Fisher
why do normalfags always deny the fact that society is inherently biased against low value men? is it because if all the low value men revolted they'd be in deep shit? you have no idea what its like being unwanted, you're so far removed from the life of an ugly man its crazy. we are completely invisible.
Adrian Walker
>"men" >talks about some virgin with what sounds like downs syndrome and a gay t-shirt >"my mom has 500 black guys coming over to our house every day" That's not really what we mean by positive feedback, friendo.
Nathaniel Jenkins
>invited And now you have proven that it's a choice. Your choice is fucking ass, and you get to live with the consequences.
Nathan Watson
Just-Word fallacy and their ego They refuse to believe they're a bad person because everybody is conditioned to think they're a good person. Because they ARENT actually good people, (just regular people) it results in their actions actually showing that they're disgusting
Mason Anderson
>dude just invite yourself to the party where you don't know anyone you are legitimately retarded.
Jeremiah Green
I can assure you I am far from a chad, christ above I am hardly even 5 foot 10. I have just experienced both getting shat on and being relatively in the limelight. People like that have such thoughts because they can see how much of a joke social shit really is and how much primitive ape behavior is still well within everyone no matter how many trinkets, feel good falsehoods, and flashy lights are made. If realizing that and acting accordingly makes me a narcissist then so be it, double so if that makes me a shitty person. Its a dog eat dog world afterall.
Benjamin Phillips
Retard, there is nothing more normal than the claim that "society = against me".
Women say it, men say it, poor people say it, rich people say it.
You ARE the normalfag. The problem here is that you have a very shitty lifestyle and the absolute wrong scapegoat to justify it. Even if people like you escape your male-dominated hobbies you will only focus on superficial shit and treat women like objects or status symbols.
>capable of revolution >invisible pick one you dumb fuck
Jose Roberts
Were you born retarded or did your parents dribble your head on the ground like a basketball until you ended up this way?
Justin Baker
>don't know anyone Mr. community and global behaviorist expert over here doesn't know anyone. That's fucking rich.
No you retard, there are almost INFINITE opportunities to go to events that don't require invitations, easy to get an invitation, or to invite people yourself. Do you choose to spend time alone? There's the main cause, nothing else matters at that point in time. >b-b-but when i was- Nothing.
Jace Peterson
I was born retarded, my parents dribbled my head on the ground like a basketballmaxx, and I am much uglier than you. Still have friends and a girlfriend. Get off the internet.
Ryder Cooper
>But they dont realize that this is not reality, just look at the gender ratio on most of those apps its around 6 men for every woman
The very fact that there are 6 times as many men on dating apps as there are women is ITSELF a blackpill.
Why aren't women on dating apps? The only possible answer is that they are satisfied with their existing avenues for meeting men, and don't need to join. So there are six times as many men as women who are so shut out of other ways to find a date that they have to turn to dating apps. The logically inescapable conclusion is that all of the OTHER ways to meet someone to date are skewed against men also, and that is why men are turning to dating apps.
It does not help matters that most of the venues where men used to be able to meet women in contexts where non-Chads might have a chance have now been shut down by feminist legal activism over "harassment". When you cannot ask out a woman who is a work colleague without risking a lawsuit, the 35% of marriages that used to start as workplace relationships had to be deflected to some other venue. And the only available venue for non-extroverts is dating apps.
Jayden Wood
Introvert genes were a mistake honestly. Probably the lowest IQ correlation we know.
Parker Wright
>No you retard, there are almost INFINITE opportunities to go to events that don't require invitations
And at the vast majority of the ones that don't require invitations, intruding on someone else's sub-group is considered a gross social faux pas (and the extent of the faux pas scales with how far you are from being Chad).
Joseph Clark
Yeah, we get it, insecurity is a flex. Your choice.
