Is there any hope anymore?

Normalfag. Your two year old is going to drag school because you can't homeschool for shit lmao. Hope xe enjoys xir vegan HFCS-PUFA-enriched diet of goyslop.

>This is why my kids will grow up in a country manor and yours in an apartment.
Not that user, but sure, they may live in an apartment, but they'll be loved and cared for by me and I'll raise them right. While your kids, in their manor, will live without the love of their careerist dad and will be cared for by a number of nannies and house staff, and that's how you end up with trustfund babies.
Good luck with that.
We'll be having tacos and watching Cartoon Network in our apartment.

Based. This meme only works if you are family first, not career first. Keep wagecucking, I'm sure someday you'll find the right "partner" to have a little transactional exchange with. 0 children though.

>While your kids, in their manor, will live without the love of their careerist dad and will be cared for by a number of nannies and house staff
My career has me home by 6pm at the latest daily.

People like you are the reason children grow up to be non binary faggots and don't know how to take a bit out of a drill. How about you stop filling up our board with your normie internet dick measuring contests, and work on not being an absentee father raising someone who will end up on this board

My role is to be a breadwinner and provider for kids.
I also already have the partner. We agreed no kids before 30 so we can stockpile money.
Cope, cityfag.

>i had my first kid at 25. i wish it was 23 or 22.
That reminds me of myself. I had my first kid at never and wished it was never.

>tfw traditional men have never spent time with other men talking about their family values before
>tfw any time someone talks about having kids, a non binary faggot loses the ability to use a drill
Yes.

>raping non-beings into existence
Cruel! Sadistic even!

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You were brainwashed to believe you need to "stockpile" money and purchase a country manor before you have kids? I'm not following.

It's valid to say you just don't care about children and don't want to spend time with your family right now. But if you talk to old people that's one of the main regrets people have. 30 seems reasonable if you have a partner already though, I have heard of some idiots who don't even start dating until their 30s because they got wagecucked.

Not on this board you fucking normie, why don't you talk about this shit with your abundance of friends? Your two year old has a dad who argues with retards on Any Forums

>implying I don't
Hmmm. Do you have a source to back that up?

I'd like to have children earlier, but I can't afford to give them an equal/better childhood than my parents gave me just yet. I have some of the most linear and predictable high-earner career progression though, so I'll be good for it by 30, maybe 32. It's also a proper career to be proud of with community bragging rights, not corporationshit.
I don't want my kids to spend their first years in the city. I wanna homeschool them, I wanna feed them homegrown healthy food, I wanna keep them fit and active. Having kids before house is risking a lot.

>equal/better childhood
>homeschool (virtually free), homegrown food (virtually free), fit and active (virtually free)
>"can't afford"
I respect that you still want kids and have noble goals but you are mentally retarded. Mass media scared you out of the one thing that makes a man a man.

>they'll be loved and cared for by me and I'll raise them right
>*sends them to mainstream school*
>*can't afford good vacations for them*
>*feeds them fast food*
>*keeps them in undisciplined environment*
>*separates them from nature*
>*lives in financial insecurity*
>"B-BUT I TOTALLY LOVE THEM"

They look happy... She's glowing, unlike the 30+ yo roasties after they had their kid.

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Homeschool requires space to do so and enough money to afford taking some time off. For specialties beyond my own (biology and languages) I may need to hire tutors. Not to mention the cost of books and university entrance exams.
Homegrown food requires a few acres of land at least (yes I am including meat, eggs, and dairy there), which costs money, and time to tend to it.
Fitness requires paid-for clubs or time off (which I won't be paid fot, again), and access to a gym and good outdoor space.
Think in opportunity cost - you have to tailor the environment to suit the goals and account for the loss of earnings in the time taken out to do the other things.