Is "ADHD" real a real condition? I'm not convinced that it's real. I have the symptoms and was diagnosed with it...

Is "ADHD" real a real condition? I'm not convinced that it's real. I have the symptoms and was diagnosed with it. I want to know how to cure it without meds.

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dopamine detox and read books

Take xanax to slow your brain down you spastic faggot.

Were you diagnosed with it before or after excessive internet/ porn consumption?

Most (see: nearly all) mental conditions found in western countries are [only] found in western countries. The vast majoriety of it is bullshit, yes.

after of course

Of course it's not real you chimp, you made yourself into a drooling retard but of course everything is a mental illness now that needs meds
Do Dopamin detox, no smartphone, no computer, no porn and you will become a human again you chimp

Would you say you had symtoms before?
If yes, you probably have real ADHD.
If not, you need to dopamine detox.

It's not, it's a cope for people without the temperance to care about autistic boring shit but still want the socioeconomic benefits that come with being a nerd.

Nobody would care about having ADHD if they won the lottery, it's just seething about not having the potential to be a codecel, a doctor or an engineer.

Yes, it is real and I have it. I will proceed to write a 2000 word post just for you (hyperbole, or is it?), because hyperfocusing on it gives me satisfaction. But before that, I will bump the thread so my effort is not in vain.

Here you go.

Yes, it is real. Unfortunately.

You don't need medication, you need dopamine. But medication is the most efficient way to get dopamine.

Medication such as Lisdexamfetamine, Methylphenidate and Amphetamine are stimulants. They are norepinephrine and dopamine reuptake inhibitors. There is also Atomoxetine, which is just a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. It does not stimulate the reward center of your brain. This will calm you but will not give you any motivation.

A lot of us already know that dopamine is involved in reward, but those with ADHD also lack norepinephrine which is involved in self-control, but also memory and focus. Losing stuff, brain fog, impulsiveness (speech and action). But, dopamine produces norepinephrine. So, they compliment each other.

There is a huge stigma around these drugs, but they're not at all harmful and can even benefit the normal development of the brain, because those with ADHD have underdeveloped regions in the frontal lobe, but most importantly, the underproduction of norepinephrine and dopamine which are sucked immediately as they are produced, back into the neuron. These drugs prevent that from happening.

ADHD is highly genetic. If you have it, your parents are likely to have it too. It could also be developed through prenatal trauma such as asphyxiation, smoking, drinking, poisoning, or through other forms of brain damage.

Normal people cannot relate to ADHDers because they can just do shit with little effort. For someone with ADHD, it takes a huge amount of willpower. Dopamine is not the reward for doing something, but the incentive to keep doing it. Dopamine studies show that mice not producing enough dopamine will starve to death unless the researchers put food and water into their mouths, that only then they will proceed to drink and chew.

There is a lot involved in ADHD behavior: brain fog, constant thoughts, repeated music, rumination, anxiety, constantly switching between topics, being distracted by novelty, easily distracted while doing something uninteresting, outbursts of anger when doing something unpleasant, talking a lot especially about your interests, etc.

Laziness is a choice, a moral choice. You can just choose to do nothing and relax, and feel no emotional distress. ADHDers know that they need to do whatever important thing, but they can't bring themselves to do it. This creates a lot of emotional distress such as anxiety and depression. A lot of ADHDers are only driven to do what they need to do by social pressure and anxiety. If they become desensitized to those, it all comes crumbling down.

Not all ADHDers are hyperactive, at least not physically. You can be a quiet smart kid with good grades, but only did the absolute minimum for things you didn't care for. It starts like this - you start lagging behind, it becomes overwhelming, you can't concentrate and lose willpower, you get worse grades, you get desensitized, and become a shell of your former self.

Those with ADHD have less tonic dopamine, the dopamine that resides between neurons normally. You feel content with just sitting and doing nothing, or just relaxing, that is if you have the normal amount. If you have less, you are constantly understimulated, you need to do shit RIGHT NOW. This creates the "hyperactivity". Because of the lower tonic dopamine level, phasic dopamine has a much bigger impact. Doing interesting, fun shit, feels 10x better. This is why ADHDers can spend 8 or 12 hours just doing something without eating, drinking, and taking only breaks to shit and piss. This is called hyperfocus, and hyperfixations are interests that you hyperfocus on for a long time. These cannot be controlled. Anything can be interesting and novel, for a day, two weeks, or just 15 minutes before you forget about it.

Medication brings you to a normal level of stimulation where you have more self-control.

ADHD is a lack of selective attention. It's not about a lack of attention, or a total lack of willpower, that's probably closer to depression. You just simply cannot target your attention and willpower.

>I want to know how to cure it without
Kys, just do it.
Your retardation shouldn't be allowed in the genetic pool

Mental labels are really dangerous. Something can seem like ADHD (if ADHD even exist) but maybe it is just a a combination of factors, for example:

- sensory issues
- environmental and physical issues
- cognitive issues: defective decisions/thoughts leads to defective lifestyle/actions leads to defective psychological state/capabilities.
- emotional issues: maybe you have curiosity and motivation for certain things and desdain others. To the eyes of a normie you are this ill, when in fact you just need a different stimuli/job.

I do, together with AS and Dysthymia.
Not a single day goes by in which i don't think about the end. Not death exactly but either sleeping forever or just to disappear.
I got a good job since recently, getting fit, talk more to people (used to be mute), try to do different things to keep me engaged, but aforementioned like makes it all at least 3 times as hard to do it normally. The sheer mental willpower, energy and focus feels like i need to prepare for basically every little thing in my life just not to look like a confused dumbass, or feel tired and sick of with whatever i'm doing.
I only feel content in my routine, outside of it i don't enjoy anything, even when i used to because it was a new experience. I know i'm not gay but i don't even want to bother with a relationship or simply keeping smalltalk going.
I already went through a plethora of therapy and meds, but both aren't the solution.
I'm still figuring myself out, but it's definitely real. I sincerely wish you were right.
It fluctuates so rarely i feel incredible and energized, but most of the time it just sucks ass.
I take solace in the fact that i have little other physical disabilities and a good upbringin so i still consider myself lucky.

Based, normalfags and failed normies seethe when those above them make fun of them, yet they will always step on those below them just for the fun of it. Niggers know nothing of ADHD, yet all of them are experts on it. If you suspect you have ADHD, never listen to Any Forums niggers, they want to keep you down just so they can have somebody inferior to them.

I treated my ADHD with video game addiction and then alcohol/drug binges.
It hasn't gone well for me

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Thank you so much user for this info dump. Through this and what the last two therapists have gone over with me, I can now be confident that all I have been dealing with all this life was just ADHD. All of what you have described is spot on, including the fact that it is genetic and the more I think back on how my parents acted, the jobs they did, and the way they were always insistent on doing something with almost no down time just ticks everything that was described.

It's kind of a shitty situation when you are in a low income household and when your parents didnt even know or want to learn about ADHD cause they just thought it was laziness but honestly I wouldnt hate them for it because I think it was just a way for them to convince themselves that they didnt need any treatment because it would be more money out of their pocket that they would need for everything else

Also fuck the haters

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Out of a sudden, saying you have ADHD now triggers a lot of people. Hmmm

>"noooo you cant blame your impulsive habits and shitty financial decisions that's just an excuse!!!!"
>mfw Im self aware of this and actually try to treat it

THEIR PROFIT MARGIN WOULD BE FUCKED user DONT YOU KNOW LIKE OVER 70% OF BUSINESSES RELY ON ADHD BASED MISTAKES?!?!

also trips of truth

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