Today I slept for like 9 hours and must've had about 3 hours of lucid dreaming. Ask me anything

Today I slept for like 9 hours and must've had about 3 hours of lucid dreaming. Ask me anything.

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Is it hard to lucid dream? and what did you dream about?

>Is it hard to lucid dream?
Not really. You'll need:
1. Decent dream recall so you can actually remember the dreams
2. Be aware of things which happen often in your dreams, so you can use them to become lucid
3. Actually keep the very real possibility that you're dreaming in mind
Takes practice, but once you get it, you get it.

>and what did you dream about?
I had like 3-4 dreams with double digits false awakenings between them, so a lot of stuff. I did a few things I wanted to do, so I'm happy with it.
I think one of the first I had was a dream about being in a classroom, and I became lucid and there was a cute girl there, and I was going to ask her to fuck but I instead ended up asking her her name, and chatting to other people in the classroom about their own dreams and their names and trying to get to know them. I also turned night into day for the first time, which was pretty theatrical and dope, and was hard as fuck.

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>3 hours of lucid dreaming
I can almost never do this and when I can half the time it's a "fuck I'm trapped in a dream an I can't escape" horror show. the other half of the time I try to summon my high school oneitis into my dream so I can fuck her, and fail. I guess either way its good that I generally can't control my dreams, and that when I can I wake up 60 seconds later.

>I can almost never do this and when I can half the time it's a "fuck I'm trapped in a dream an I can't escape" horror show.
I have this a lot, and I did this time as well, but didn't really freak out as much. Getting used to it. I think it may have something to do with me having really long spanning dreams (it's not really rare for me to have day - week long non-lucid dreams), so maybe that's a factor there.

>I guess either way its good that I generally can't control my dreams
Controlling your dreams is a completely separate skill from lucid dreaming. It's something you have to learn and train. I could fly when I started, I couldn't pass through walls, I couldn't summon anything. These days I can do all 3, and since I turned night into day (in a pretty pepega way but still), I can probably just do it now because I know it works. I'm still not great at flying, I can't control it very well, and it's often a bit painful when I land. Today I wanted to go to space but was too scared to, for instance.
That's the thing about dreams, if you believe it works, it'll work, no matter what. Symbolism can be a good shortcut.

I'll give you a protip for summoning things: tell yourself they're just around the corner.

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>Be aware of things which happen often in your dreams, so you can use them to become lucid

i've tried lucid dreaming for 12 years and i've never got past this point, there doesnt seem to be a pattern to it at all, and regardless of how much i pay attention to shit in real life its like my dream self just wont ever make the fucking realization that i'm dreaming. fuck this life, can't even lucid dream.

>i've tried lucid dreaming for 12 years and i've never got past this point, there doesnt seem to be a pattern to it at all
Usually what happens here is that people either have really poor dream recall, or they just aren't sensitive to the kinds of recurring dream signs which do show up. I can give you some of mine:
>Trains, especially a train falling off a cliff or derailing (with me in it)
>Dirty bathrooms / locker rooms (like piss puddles all over the floor dirty)
>Classrooms and school settings in general
>Feeling of being late for work
But it can be a lot of stuff, like being near someone specific or some object or emotion which occurs often.

You can sort of complement this with prospective memory training, where you go like
>Any time I see a dog today, I'll make a dream check

>and regardless of how much i pay attention to shit in real life its like my dream self just wont ever make the fucking realization that i'm dreaming.
There is also another way of going about it which involves just making periodic dream checks randomly throughout the day, in the hopes that you eventually just do one randomly within a dream.

I think also something people usually fail at is that they don't understand these dream checks can't just be done casually. When you dream check, you should really STOP, and SERIOUSLY consider "Wait a fucking minute. Am I dreaming right now?" You should think this and actually mean it, and then check. It may sound really silly (of course I'm not dreaming), but I can't tell you how many lucid dreams I lost because I went "Of course I'm not dreaming, it all looks and feels so real", so yeah.

Being "your awake self" within a dream, including keeping good track of your memories, etc. is also a skill, by the way. Or in other words, there are degrees of awakeness, even if you're lucid. You can know you're in a dream, and still be your dream self, detached from your awake faculties for the most part.

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Try to count your fingers as a dream check. Most of the time if you are dreaming you won't have 5 fingers or won't be able to count them properly. Another thing some people do is hitting your forearms together without looking and sometimes they go through each other if you are dreaming.

I had a dream last night where I had this drone equipped with this little bomb and I dropped it near where my house was and then the drone crashed

>Trains, especially a train falling off a cliff or derailing

i mean FUCK. how specific is that?? it's perfect. i did the retarded dream journaling for a couple of month and all i got was ridiculously generic shit like "being outside".

>making periodic dream checks randomly throughout the day

right well that's what im saying, i can make those 100 times a day but for some fuck all reason I JUST DONT DO IT IN DREAMS.
thanks for the tips though, the part about not doing them casually is new to me, i haven't thought of that.

mine is pinching my nose and trying to breathe through it.

>i mean FUCK. how specific is that??
The derailing stuff, very, but I get a lot of dreams from trains alone despite having taken trains daily for 6 years. The outdoors one you mentioned isn't necessarily bad. Just make a reality check if you suddenly notice you're outdoors, or maybe every time you leave the house. Also some other good dreamsigns are stuff like video games, or if you watch a lot of anime maybe you can get some related to that, for instance, and then you can integrate those extra reality checks while you're awake dealing with those things. Also a good one is to just reality check any time you come across something that feels odd or out of place during your awake life.

Try this, sleep for 4 hours, wake up and just stay awake for 30mins-1hour, maybe thinking about dreaming and kind of reinforcing your intent of recognizing when you're dreaming. Then go back to sleep and try to think of it as much as possible.

You can always go the awake into lucid dream route, but I think that takes a lot more practice, so idk.

What are your lucid dream goals, by the way? Wanna tell us?

Sounds like you dreamed of a GTA mission.

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yeah same. been attempting lucids for at least 15 years at this point, i had my first after 5 years and i get maybe one or two a year
i've had a few lucids here and there but it took me almost 10 years to have my first WILD, haven't been able to have another one

>Usually what happens here is that people either have really poor dream recall,
that's usually the case for me if i'm not dream journaling or i'm just not going to sleep properly
reality checks and dream journaling don't do anything for me, the only way i can induce lucids are through obsessive thoughts and sleep rituals

from personal experience most people who say they've been "trying" lucid dreaming for that long weren't really trying
they weren't attempting WILDs or MILDS properly, they probably didn't go to sleep properly, they probably don't even know their WBTB times (i still don't, after a decade)

if you aren't a natrual lucid dreamer you can't slack off during sleep. you have to actively turn sleep into a meditation
and if you can't sleep on your back it's much harder

every time i find out im dreaming, my brain decides to wake up :(

>if you can't sleep on your back it's much harder
I don't sleep on my back and I do fine. Sleeping on your back is a bit better to get sleep paralysis which is a good way to just get a free lucid dream, but from what I've heard that's about it.

>i get maybe one or two a year
That is very low.

>reality checks and dream journaling don't do anything for me
I don't know what you mean by this.
>reality checks
My guess is that you're just not doing reality checks properly (aka just assuming the answer), you don't need reality checks to catch a dream state, but they seem to help a lot when you're actually questioning your reality within a dream.
>dream journaling
Dream journaling has two objectives: the first one is having a log of dreams you can search for dream signs, and the second is to increase your dream recall skill by pretty much forcing you to meditate on the dream for a bit. This second goal can be achieved without any writing, but most people can't really do targeted intense consideration very well, so yeah. If you're only looking for the second skill, one thing that could also work is to talk aloud about the dream, or tell your dream to someone (maybe your gf after you wake up in her arms :) ).
The point is that none of these things are actual "lucid dream inducers", but are just skills that tangentially help with lucid dreaming. They're more general dream skills. With reality checks, for instance, you still need the awareness to check before it does anything.

>if you aren't a natrual lucid dreamer you can't slack off during sleep.
It also seems like you're just trying too hard. Maybe stop thinking about lucid dreams for a while, merely enjoy and catalogue non-lucid ones without any expectation of lucidity. From what I've heard, this helps sometimes.
This one time I was getting back into lucid dreaming and actually didn't want to have dreams. The first night I had a lucid dream, and I was so upset I just woke myself up.

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>Sleeping on your back is a bit better to get sleep paralysis which is a good way to just get a free lucid dream, but from what I've heard that's about it.
i don't get sleep paralysis anymore. i used to when i was younger
sometimes i can zone into the transition between dream and wake, but i never capitalize on it properly since it just kind of happens

>That is very low.
it took me 5 years to get my first

>Maybe stop thinking about lucid dreams for a while, merely enjoy and catalogue non-lucid ones without any expectation of lucidity
i maintain a dream journal without any expectations of lucidity, lucids don't come at all that way for me
the ONLY way i can get a lucid dream is through intense focus and meditation

like here's my formula for getting a lucid
>drink some water, meditate 10 minutes before bed
>do whatever to just go to sleep properly
>wake up 5 hours after my sleep
>write down that dream in dream journal
>attempt to WILD, but be ok with going for a MILD attempt. it usually takes me 2 hours to fall back to sleep
>repeat this for a week straight and maybe i'll have a lucid

basically if i don't 100% obsess about lucid dreaming i will never have it. there's a reason i've been trying to lucid dream for 10+ years and still can't do it. some people are just really incompetent
also i work a job with long hours and usually that kills most of my sleeping during the workdays

This is very common when you first start out, but as soon as you start getting used to the feeling it goes away. It's like dream sex, the first time you'll just wake up the moment you touch a tt, afterwards you'll wake up when you shove your dick inside her, and after you're fine with that, you'll most likely be waking up when you cum. These things just go away once you kinda are used to that.

>i maintain a dream journal without any expectations of lucidity
You can't say this and then be like
>like here's my formula for getting a lucid
>drink some water, meditate 10 minutes before bed
>do whatever to just go to sleep properly
>wake up 5 hours after my sleep
>write down that dream in dream journal
>attempt to WILD, but be ok with going for a MILD attempt. it usually takes me 2 hours to fall back to sleep
>repeat this for a week straight and maybe i'll have a lucid

But Idk. If you're thinking you don't think about them AT ALL unless you're making these rituals, the answer is 100% to drop the rituals and just start thinking about dreaming and the nature of your reality throughout the day. Once you awake to that, it's kind of hard to ignore the dream state. Analise your dream life and your awake life, like the stuff you see, feel, etc. without any expectations of lucidity. Maybe read LaBerge, it may help.

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>You can't say this and then be like
i mean that i currently do not attempt to go for lucids. i mean that the ONLY times i have been able to lucid dream are when i have followed those steps

>the answer is 100% to drop the rituals and just start thinking about dreaming and the nature of your reality throughout the day
that's what i have been doing and i have gotten zero lucids while doing so

Whenever I lucid dream and turn myself into a girl, I get the strong urge to do this. I've woken up from this state violently grabbing my cock as something similar to your visual was happening prior in the illusory dreamworld.

>Analise your dream life and your awake life, like the stuff you see, feel, etc. without any expectations of lucidity.
how long do you have to do that for
i have deadlines at work to meet and i do try to take time to do that, but i unfortunately get distracted by working and if i start focusing on my job i lose all of that

I used to lucid dream quite regularly as a kid, without really realizing that it was abnormal. Now that I'm an adult though, I very rarely have it happen. Dreams can still be quite vivid, and I can recall them, but I'm not lucid and I don't directly control them like I could when I was young.

i've never successfully turned myself into a girl in my lucids
i've become a trap, a futa, and even just a man with tits, but i can't become a woman no matter how hard i try

try closing your eyes and spinning in a circle
this will also typically change your dream environment