How do you date if you're just an ordinary Any Forums guy in your 20s?
>every single girl on dating apps no matter how ugly or fat she is only matches with handsome men
>you can't ask out girls in hobby groups because "she's just here to have fun bro, stop being a creep" meanwhile you'll see the same woman throw herself at chad
>very few matches on dating apps where the girl is 100% disinterested because she's also talking 1000 other men
>can't ask out women in the streets because it can land you in prison unless you're chad
>the threshold of what's acceptable for men in terms of looks and height goes up and up every year meanwhile the threshold for women goes lower and lower every year
So my question is how does a average looking man with a good ol career looking for a non cuckold relationship in 2022 find a partner? Because it sure seems impossible
Is lifting not even an improvement anymore?
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have you tried not being ugly op? perhaps try being a little more white? if you are actually no bullshit fit and have an actual career you are ahead of 99% of other 20 somethings
I met my fiance at UNI and I make a lot of money and am fit. It was pretty easy.
>I make a lot of money
Uh-oh
>perhaps try being a little more white?
I am a redhead, cannot get whiter than that lmao
>wants to see a doomsday scenario at every street corner
You're obviously trying to play victim here. If:
- you're not matching with bitches online
- girls are not "throwing themselves at you because you're not a Chad"
- people tell you to stop being a creep
You're ugly and/or retarded. Don't get me wrong, I hate women, but if a man isn't having success with them he's either ugly and/or retarded. Become a Chad as much as possible (clothing, lifting, hair, looksmaxx) and read the book "the physical game". If that doesn't help you can try another city. If that doesn't help... You oughtta accept the hand you were dealt (you're just a ugly faggot)
I meet mine at bars/friends. My buddy's cousin already hooked me up w 3 of her friends. Make some friends user
Me again, won't be replying further
Don't use dating aps. The only women on there are the sort who use dating aps.
>"she's just here to have fun bro, stop being a creep"
Whoever said that is dumb.
Don't let the myth of the friend zone get to you. Girls usually know other girls.
is another incel rant with cumbait
>redhead
user, I...
There are ordinary guys who are DYEL's getting dates.
The blackpill is very real but stop being a bitch.
Try going on Tinder with a fake profile and look at other men. You'll notice that 95% of men look exactly the same, have the same boring presentations and do the same boring things. If you are lifting and have any non NPC characteristics you're probably already in the 5%.
>Ask women out
Here's your problem mate, in a hobby/social setting your interactions are a trial run. If you and a girl end up getting along it will reflect in your behaviour towards eachother. Asking a girl from a mutual club you've not developed a relationship on a platonic level first is a fuck up.
I met my girlfriend of ten years at a quiz club, it started with a few comments here and there "Did your team do alright?" To us trying out being a team 'to see if we are the smart ones' and then we stuck and gradually ended up meeting up outside of it.
The best relationship is developed organically in a shared setting, and then it takes a step.
I notice too many people don't do this and then complaining that they're seen as creepy.
It is creepy to ask girls out who you've never formed a repertoire with before you start asking them out.
OP is a demoralized faggot who will never get a GF with this attitude.
>women only like handsome men
That's not true, they like me because i have a huge cock
Seriously
Is being a ginger really that bad? :(
>The best relationship is developed organically in a shared setting
>tfw work in tech with 0 women and every hobby or club after college is basically 90% men
It's over.
>only chads get women
>this is a bad thing
Ha stay coping loser, or accept that you are genetic waste and not entitled to anything in life. Free market wether you like it or not you commie bitch
All I got from that is that you're not average, you're ugly. I don't mean to be a dick, but I did all of the things you mentioned when I was in my 20s and it worked just fine and I'm no Brad Pitt. If you are ugly, what do you expect? That girls just should date men they find unattractive? Would you?
Anyway, focus on getting money and status. That's your best bet.
Do you walk around naked or what?
Try not using dating apps.
If you're using dating apps you're competing with the top 10% of men, and dating apps are only used for casual sex anyway.
Meanwhile if you go outside and talk to people you're competing with the average man who is an unhealthy arrested development subhuman.
Online you will be the least atttractive choice, in real life you will be the most attractive choice
>very single girl on dating apps no matter how ugly or fat she is only matches with handsome men
Guess this makes me handsome then. Try dressing better, maybe /fa/gs have some advice for you.
Also try not being a boring autist. Have unique interests and some conventional ones so you're interesting but still relatable.
Learn how to take photos that make you look good. Like holy fucking shit this is huge. So many people have no fucking clue how to take a half-decent photo and they make themselves look so much worse. If you don't know how then watch some portrait photography tutorials and tips videos on youtube until it sinks in. Buy a tripod and get the fucking phone camera out of your hands. Posing, lighting, angles, and get some fucking props. Even an ugly fucker can jump up a few points if you just know what you're doing.
Have you tried not being a jaded loser?
This is so fucking true. I mog like 90% of men IRL.
Ginger is literally an anagram of Nigger
just copy this routine. it's literally all you have to do.
>If you are ugly, what do you expect?
Being able to at least get an ugly girlfriend.
I'm and I'm obese. Losing weight now that I'm taking it seriously, but if you really believe this then you're saying a fat bearded guy with long hair and a 47-inch waist coircumference is top 10%.
I'm not getting fat girls either; if I match one on accident then I unmatch without saying anything. Stop the cope train and try.
What do you mean? Isn't my selfie without lights or facial expression good enough? But my mom said i am handsome....
If dating apps work for you then good for you, but the women on there definitely are not wife material.
No, I send them dickpics on Instagram.
Are you hungarian?
Amen brother
No but but i use a bathmate so that my cock hangs like 6 inches flaccid permanently then wear sweat pants with no underwear
I just use the excuse that i got back from the gym
Then 99 percent of women i cold approach are sweet to me. Most are willing to date also, even to come over and ''watch a movie'' on the first date as long as i talked to them for a bit after approaching them. So i just set up a monitor at the end of my bed which is th eonly place to watch a movie and we cuddle then fuck
Unlimited pussy essentially
I won't tell you you're wrong about wife-material, but if someone is looking to get laid or just have more dating experience the main obstacle is usually the stuff I listed off (bad photos, no sense of style, unrelatable/boring) and not that gigchads are dominating the pussy-market.
you absolutely need an HWD [HUGE WHITE DICK], it's the sole factor of a woman's choice
HUNGARIAN WARRIOR DICK
(HUNGARIANS HAVE LONGEST AVERAGE DICK IN EUROPE, LOOK IT UP)
depends, are you shaun white or carrot top?
>only matches with handsome men
not true. I have ugly friends who have success on tinder.
You just have to live in a big city. If you're in a small city area, you'll have 0 luck.
RED POWER!
Im surprised that you have the intelligence for a tech job, yet you're too retarded to go to clubs outside of work
Time to download Grindr buddy
Texas. Me and a few of my friends met our spouses there. We are all different denominations of Christian but we met our wives there. I’m from Cali and my other friends are from different states. Texas still has good ideals and nice churches. Meet your wife at a church.
>if you aren’t dating for marriage you don’t need to date at all.
It's not that women only go for chads. They go for regular guys too and you're just awful
not even true, I asked my sister and a bunch of her female friends and they all said most of their female friends relationships are formed directly and not overtime as a sort of friendzone escapee, if you dont show romantic interest from the start its not going to happen
Red hair = Scythian Gigachad or ugly weakling.
Literally no inbetween
as another fellow ginger, yes.
your only hope is to go celtic viking mode if you want attention
>you can't ask out girls in hobby groups because "she's just here to have fun bro, stop being a creep" meanwhile you'll see the same woman throw herself at chad
This entire post is bait, but I know there are a shit ton of people who believe this one.
I know you probably heard that shit from a woman so I have the obligation to remind you and every man here that women have no fucking clue what they want. They only pretend to know. Talking to one with any frequency will make this very apparent.
Just stop following their made up rules, cause chad doesn't either.
Oh well if your sister and her girlfriends say this isn't true you must be right.
You only get friend zoned if there's no attraction there, if there is the relationship will organically form.
They sound like pump and dumps.
I agree that it isnt that easy anymore, but you also seem very out of touch with reality. I may have a biased chad/brad point of view though.