I'm a Zoomer (over 18), and I think having children is hopeless these days

I'm a Zoomer (over 18), and I think having children is hopeless these days.

Imagine you have a son. Chances are that in today's world his life will be miserable. Women are high-standard whores, everyone wants men to suffer.
For my son, chances are he will end up a loser nerd incel the same as me.

The real problem comes from having a daughter. I've thought about this a lot over the years and I know this is obvious but women truly are retarded and hopeless.
Even if I raised her right, even if I got her into nerdy interests and started her on the path of intelligence, even if I did everything perfectly within her first 5-8 years on Earth...
Other girls and even the boys at school would slowly turn her into a slut.
I would need to work double time to counter-act this and try to teach her why this shit is wrong but it really wouldn't work because at the end of the day parents don't raise their children anymore

If she continues down the path of being a girl who isn't a total slut and actually focuses on her studies, all that will happen is she will be bullied, harassed, mostly by other women but still.
Her female friends will beg her to have sex with guys, just because it's "Fun". Her female friends will call her lame because she doesn't want to be passed around like a cheap joint and get riddled with STDs.

But the funniest thing of all my friends, the most ironic twist in all of this... is the men. If I have a daughter and I succeed in keeping her nerdy and intelligent... that means that the nerdy guys will be on her.
and I think all of us here are first hand examples of why that is not good. Nerdy guys are fucking gross, sexually frustrated creeps! I know because I WAS ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL!

In conclusion. there is LITERALLY NO WINNING when it comes to have children today.

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Didn't read this but if you think having children in this current day and age is a good idea you're a moron

Oh and before any of you tell me to get off your board. I want to make it clear that I'm an ugly nerdy KHHV that has never once gone on a date or had any woman attracted to him in anyway.
I'm a social outcast who is clearly excluded from social activities. Happened in school and I even see it happening in the workplace now. New hires will get invited to parties while I've worked there for a while and never even got a contact.
I wont get off the board.

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>women are high-standard
>whores
Those two items don't go together.
I'm not reading the rest of your novel.

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They have high-standards, and are whores. user, read.

>have son
>probably turns out gay, simp, or NEET
>possibly all 3
>have daughter
>you have to raise a daughter
Either way you are fucked.

yeah basically. What a grand waste of time.

>Nerdy guys are fucking gross, sexually frustrated creeps! I know because I WAS ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL!
I relate to this in a weird way. I have a white aunt who put her daughter in dual-immersion classes. Which means that she's taking classes that are for Mexican immigrant's children who need to learn English because their parents don't speak it. Now it gets bad because I went to school with these type of young Mexican kids and they were degens that I would never let any daughter around. They'd look up gore and porn on the school computers, not just normal porn but midget porn and donkey shows. These types of kids would grab girls asses and thighs, play with themselves on the bus. Holy shit, my aunt is a naive woman.

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They're mutually exclusive. I don't care about relationships with 3D, but if a girl liked me I would consider her a whore. Unless she matches my market value, but you don't enable crazy bitches.

I understand your porn addicted opinion, but I have a 2 year old son anyway. Based.

dawg this is literally just how women are now. I understand you might be a bit older than me but this young generation is degen as fuck.

>lives in 21st century
>pretty much guaranteed that child and mother will survive childbirth
>child will be properly fed and grow up in a house
>wont get cholera, tetanus, measles
>wont be forced to work in a mine or cotton mill at the age of 10
>wont be conscripted into some dumb war at the age of 16
>wont spend entire life doing backbreaking farm work
>will almost definitely reach adulthood, and is very likely to live one of the longest lifespans of anyone from previous generations
>but uhhh... muh uh sex urr... might be lonely

mate learn some bloody context

I hope so. Just means that my kid won't have much competition. For reference most of the other parents I hang with are raising their kids properly.

lmao what a shitty fucking take. Most of this stuff hasn't been a problem for generations.
Being drafted to war hasn't been a problem in decades.
You can't just say that because we aren't medieval peasants we should just ignore the collapse of society in our modern day.

>36
>already took the antinatilism pill
>had vasectomy earlier in the year
Only way to win, is not to play.

I have a feeling that the next generation might be better. The people I hang out with seem to have a good head on them. I'm the outcast cause I'm ugly but I still have some guy friends.

Can anyone explain why so many winners complain about "loneliness" or "depression"?
Are they just narcissists?

I'd hedge a guess the same reason why people who have kids and complain about their lives being ruined: Because they're mentally ill.

But the people who have kids are losers so it's rational. It's the people who don't play that win at life, so they have no reason to complain.

When you achieve a high status people no longer see you as a human being.
When you are rich most people for the rest of your life will only talk to you because you have money.
If you're a famous athlete, people only see you as an asset or something that can do tricks.
If you're a celebrity, especially in a bigger role, people will forever project that fictional character on to you as if you aren't a real and separate person.

Suffering from success is certainly a real thing. It mostly stems from humans being selfish by nature though since if people weren't greedy for a rich persons money this wouldn't happen.

Well yeah, expectancy of life is way longer than before, as well as with the security for your own health
But you know?
Most of people I know don't want to last longer than 25-30 years by a simple reason.
This world is in the shit, everything is horrible and everything is just going downwards. This world is just transforming in what we considered fiction.
No one wants to live into a nightmare, and get kids into this world of madness is just...no fair for them, for their own good
I fee bad for all the little ones bringed into this world now days

Most of those people only have kids because of unplanned pregancies.

I mean...That's kind of a retarded "all or nothing" view of it, but I suppose I should look at where I am an expect retarded responses.
It's almost like having no kinds and loneliness aren't mutually exclusive of each other.

What is...
>Having kids because they think it's going to "Fulfill" them
>Having kids to fix a broken relationship
>Having kids due to societal of familial pressure
>Having kids due to religious dogma
>Having kids because they think it will be "Fun"
>Having kids without fully researching the financial ramifications they will lead to

I dont know if that was a sad attempt at English but people who dont have their own kids literally have no reason to complain. They already won.

>fucks 100s of dudes
>not a whore
NOW THIS is mutually exclusive
Wtf are you on about?

All of that happens but it is less common than what I brought up.
>Having kids due to societal of familial pressure
>Having kids due to religious dogma
Most people in those situations have family to fall back on.