GIVE UP

Is there anything more cringe and pathetic than guys who never experienced any sort of positive feedback from the opposite gender during puberty and now try to (((self improve))). If you were made for love you would have experienced it much earlier user

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Lies from doomers! You are not doomed bro!!! There can't be a situation where girls have not considered you cute? In any case girl's sexuality are vast and there don't give up. There are girls who may like you just for your character.

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Well flat no.
But the reality of being good at something on any kind of real stage is it's almost entirely working hard and working smart at improving over a vast period of time.
"Hard Work shits on talent when talent doesn't work hard."
Women don't care about objective qualities though. Not really.

No gym for your height,
No gym for your face.
No gym for your autism.

>There can't be a situation where girls have not called you cute
There can. At least from my experience.
>There are girls who may like you just for your character
I might sound like an incel, but no. I literally had no friends of opposite gender. Only now in University there are couple of girls I can talk to, but it's mostly for work stuff. I can't even imagine myself in platonic friendship with girl. I'm sorry, but your arguments sound like cope

Imagine being incapable of abstract thought. The point is not that nobody ever does anything it's that they're not constantly fighting the fucking tide in order to achieve the most basic social milestones that most people do without thinking.

>There can't be a situation where girls have not considered you cute?
lol where do you think you are

>high school
>girlfriend and I decided to start a DnD campaign and get some friends together for it. Twice a week with revolving parties on tuesdays and fridays.
>this was in 2004, when DnD was not popular
>weeb friends, goth friends, emo friends, skater dude, anyone who wanted to join.
>schools quarterback Greg comes up to me one day.
>"hey user, I heard you and kristen have a roleplaying group right? Can I join? I love Final Fantasy and I always wanted to try it out!"
>I say sure and hand in a players guide to understand the rules
>he joins the friday group. Edwin, a cuban older brother type obsessed with gansta rap is DM'ing. He shows up with his girlfriend, who looks like she walked off the set of some 80s punk rock photoshoot.
>we start playing and Greg starts rolling for his stats.
>"can I use fire and a sword? Cloud used fire and a sword and I wanna be like cloud."
>I ask Edwin if thr module has a spellsword class. It doesn't. I ask if we could just do a mulligan for him cause he's excited to play. Edwins not happy, doesn't like when stuff goes against the rules but he allows it.
>2 hours are spent trying to explain why he couldn't equipped a two-handed sword, what the rolls meant, how to get a critical. One guy, Chaz, a big beefy skater kid with an obsession with the X-men demands if he read the rules or not. He said he did but he didn't understand it completely.
>his girlfriend is dumb as a brick and tries to make a dwarf stripper.
>we try to play with him for four straight weeks, no one likes him except me. Kristen gets along with the gf but since she always looked like a fangoria cover they had the same tasteless tastes.
>greg comes up to me and says he's not coming back because its not as much fun as he had hoped and he was positive everyone there hated his guts.

There, thats an actual memory from my high school, where people didnt act like stock stereotypes from some 80s movie or the cast of the CW. Stop thinking TV is the real world damnit!!

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>There can't be a situation where girls have not considered you cute?

Really shocking assertion.

You don't even have to be really hideously ugly for this to be true. I am apocalyptically skinny, and have a baby face, but it's not like I'm deformed or an ogre. But "baby face skelly" was good enough (or bad enough, as the case may be) to be thought of as completely neuter by every one of my female classmates and acquaintances when I was younger. They didn't even actively decide I was *not* cute; it was more like I was so far outside the realm of consideration, and so unmasculine even by the standards of middle and high school, that the question of whether or not I was cute never came up.

I've been on both sides of the line for years at a time. The punchline is that humans are so narcissistic and evil that you can only overlook that long enough to be in a relationship if your narcissistic and worthless yourself.

Solitude > the loneliness of dealing with infants.

Geez man that shit hits hard and I find myself agreeing.
What do you mean by both sides of the line though?

improoving is just a way to cope, they can't ever accept that its over. Kind of like people who refuse to accept that one day they will die. Its just human nature. For every one succesfull improover there is a hundred failures who now have even worse self confidence and/or got into a horrible relationship

>There can't be a situation where girls have not considered you kute?
Never happened to me

Suddenly turned tall and hot in 10th grade after a growth spurt. Got mobbed by stacies and turned them all down until I punched one in the tit and earned the reputation of a complete psychopath. Decided to experiment after highschool and got to use a girl's body as a sexual playground off and on for 2 years. Left her because despite being a cut above the rest she was still annoying as hell. Too many bullshit hoops to jump through to keep things peaceable.

Affection and sex are nice, but the price is too high.

agreed, self improovers are pathetic
i have more respect for LDAR losers than for those failed normalnigger subhumans that try so hard to fit in in a society that has always rejected and abused them

This is all a cope. What the OP implies isn't the fact that they didn't put any effort into being fit, but they were never in a place of their lives where they were miserable enough where making up a whole plan to diet, workout and nofapping to try and improve. These people were never miserable, they were born in a world where people loved them and this gave them energy and motivation to be better.

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What if I told you hate and spite generally made better motivators as a simple matter of fact.

You can suck my dick op
Don't listen to this bullshit anons, there is nothing masculine about giving up.

Goddamn hypercringe. First of all precisely nothing in the image is even remotely correct. Secondly, that post is exactly in line with the accuracy of the image.

But that's not really the problem here. Rather, no amount of motivation can possibly turn the situation around, because you can't undo puberty and your schooling and go back to grade school to redo all the missed milestones. Those things snowballs critically hard. In most cultures, it is impossible to make friends as an adult without going through connections from college which you obtained from networking using your connections from highschool and so forth. Similarly it is near impossible to "just meet girls" in such neutral contexts, hence it is impossible for a robot to "practice".
Between this, aging and what it entails (e.g. balding, lower libido, lower T, far lower muscle growth response), increased responsibilities, and so forth, the very attempt to improve, through hope-despair dynamics, can completely break someone far beyond if they had never tried at all.
Regarding the OP "refutation", one extreme problem with the basic assumption is that beside neither of them having gone through even remotely those lengths (as the previous poster says, not to say they lazed around or anything obviously), all the efforts they went through was that dedicated to a hobby. Beside the fact that it is inherently no different than training to be good at videogames, to give an archetypal example, I for one spent the time on martial arts. I've always been strong compared to my peers as a result, but martial arts get you labeled as a weirdo despite the exact same kind of effort and results involved.
Finally, what hate and spite? Toward w*m*n? That sure as fuck won't encourage one to improve for them. Toward chad? It's not really their fault. Normalfags? Likewise. The only hate and spite is that directed toward wamyn and their sub-human nature, or that directed toward normalfags who can only say "just bee urself or go to jail creep" and refuse to even so much as try to understand.