Why are women more ambitious than men? Everywhere I look, I see average women, prior to having children, more motivated to pursue higher levels of education and have clearer career goals compared to average men. Why is this?
You can say it's stupid to pay for education and talk about the debt that comes with it, but that doesn't discount that it still takes some level of effort/ambition to attempt and obtain these qualifications. Furthermore, a lot of men that don't go into higher education don't magically become thriving entrepreneurs, they don't really do much to increase their level of social class/standing. This is even more strange considering men are the ones valued on their money and ambition. So, again, why is this?
Plenty of young men I've seen that seem like they'd have no idea about MGTOW or "decline of the west" topics (so it's not like they've been influenced by the doom pill) also seem to be less ambitious compared to their female peers, and I just don't get where this comes from.
I'll take a guess at it. Women have a stronger nesting instinct (the urge to have their own place and invite their dumb friends over and drink wine), and they like to buy endless clothes, cosmetics and junk they call decoration and that takes a ton of money. Guys be wearing the same pants for like 10 years
Ryan Smith
But if men are aware that their finances are more tied to their mating opportunities than women, why do they not have the urge to get more money, at least for the chance to mate?
Kevin Martin
Women aren't inherently more ambitious. Companies are just less likely to hire women who are married or have children and less likely to hire anyone above 25 in general and more limitations breeds more efforts.
Jason Robinson
Men don't have an "urge to mate" they have an urge to cum, and they can do that with their hand and endless internet porn now
Jose Gomez
I hate this. You are basically saying women are dumb for buying clothes and makeup meanwhile it is society and men like you who morally obligate them to do so.
Oliver Rodriguez
I guarantee you no straight male gives a flying fuck if you wear the same dress for 10 years or no makeup, it's totally all women's doing and desire
Zachary Powell
because being an obedient worker drone gets you headpats and women get serious dopameme out of that whereas men feel instinctively that obedience makes you a bitch, not a winner. nobody ever got laid for being employee of the month or getting a doctorate. does this thing make me happy OR get me laid? that's the fundamental question to determine the value of an activity. escapism can be good even though it doesn't get us laid. but if we're going to do something BORING it better get us laid. doing the career meme has extremely diminishing returns. if you're average looking you get to betabuxx for some slut who will stop having sex with you the day after marriage. hooray. if you're hot you don't actually need the good job, it's just a bonus. you'll get laid either way. and if you're ugly you probably won't even get to betabuxx so why bother? basically the motivation to be disciplined for money has diminished for all men now that women earn their own money and barely have kids any more. they don't truly need a male provider any more so the chance of the average man to get a good relationship deal are out of the window. at this point you have to wait until the woman is 30+ and has tons of baggage before "but I have a good job, I've been a good boy" becomes something she listens to. and who the fuck wants that arrangement? we both know you aren't truly attracted to me but I'm the best you *think* you can get in your current condition so now you'll take me and act like you're doing me a huge favor throughout? LOL
Dylan Gomez
This is why "self-improvement" is basically a male-only thing. It takes an insane amount of willpower to override the urge to just cum and to do something ambitious with your life instead. Go look at all the self-improvement channels on YouTube, it's 99% all men talking about the same things (don't look at porn, don't masturbate, be disciplined etc)
Christian Jones
I have no stake in society apart from the power grid, the supply chain, etc. All the USA is to me is a place to make money so I can go somewhere else.
Adrian Garcia
>if men are aware that their finances are more tied to their mating opportunities >for the chance to mate this is the crux of your confusion. you think making money gets one laid. it doesn't, except with a hooker. it used to do that when women wanted to have kids and didn't have their own money and at the same time a man's wage was enough to buy a fucking house in his 20s, without being in debt for the rest of his life. those days were over in the 90s. have you seen some 90s movies lately? more than you'd think are super pozzed with "feminist" mantras and gasping at wrongthink in ways you'd expect from a twitter user in the 2010s, not a movie released in the last century that targeted gen X. corporatism defeated monogamy in the 20th century.
Leo Robinson
what's missing isn't "willpower", it's a realistic incentive. yeah, okay, I can improve. and then what? what do I get for that? jack shit. get real.
Ryder Diaz
So what is women's urges? If we say, "to get attention", they can get plenty of that online. If we say, "to get Chad's seed", they can get that by putting out easily, and even then, women becoming the men they want to be with is a bit counterproductive to getting Chad's cum, yet a lot of them are still motivated to get ahead in life.
Isn't this a "no true scotsman" fallacy? I don't get why in an attempt to counter someone's point, people feel it's valid to speak on behalf of a whole group.
I'd think there was something strange if a woman had a terrible dress sense or only wore the same dress over and over. Makeup is also something quite important, because when women do wear it and they become more visually appealing, I do appreciate that. To say no straight male cares if women wear makeup... come on, bro...
Jayden Gray
Why play a game where the only rewards end up poisonous? Work more and harder to make more money, only to have it taken away from you by the state and the same bitch that promised you her eternal love a decade ago? All that to keep a disgusting society going that expects you to grin at the erosion of your rights and freedom to SJW-fascism?
Cameron Wood
Very little is advertised to men the way it is to women. Look at all "the future is female" shit, how much encourages women in ambitious fields, how many "wins" for women you see, etc. It can't be good for men, seeing people cheer for them succeed, while getting no positive response for doing the same, and sometimes even discouraged in order to make space for women.
Ian Carter
Most guys with enough testosterone are thinking about what's underneath the clothes the majority of the time
Hunter Flores
the first part was meant for For the average guy, having more money makes him a more attractive partner for sex or relationships, even if it's as beta bux. I would say at the very least, being broke works against a guy if he is not super attractive, as he'd be stuck in category where a woman thinks, "what can this guy offer me?"
Isaac Nelson
Women's urges are to pile up stuff, to have their own place and to fill it with shiny things, hence the need for money
Camden Bennett
>I'd think there was something strange Yeah me too. I would be very surprised that I found a woman with some sense instead of consumerism and a need to project herself to others all the time.
Henry Lewis
And you think those women are worth it? The girl that will only ever see you as a ATM and likely jumps ship when someone with more to offer winks at her?
Julian Cooper
Men are discouraged from achieving, told from childhood that they're inferior to women and nothing but disgusting horny rapist, face significant barriers in education and employment, and thanks to female hypergamy don't even have the prospect of hot girls to motivate them. In the current environment, why SHOULD men bother? Meanwhile women are told how they deserve everything and are the smartest most bestest people on the planet and schools and companies are bending over backwards for them. And even if you fail at your dreams you have plenty of safety nets to catch you before you reach the depths of despair that the average burnout male faces when he can't clear the bar. In the current environment, why WOULDN'T you feel "ambitious" as a woman?
>This is why "self-improvement" is basically a male-only thing. It takes an insane amount of willpower to override the urge to just cum and to do something ambitious with your life instead. Go look at all the self-improvement channels on YouTube, it's 99% all men talking about the same things (don't look at porn, don't masturbate, be disciplined etc)
You're absolutely correct. People don't get how fucked it is being full of testosterone 24/7 in this hypersexual world.
Josiah Campbell
Men are frightened of being tripped up by disciplinary or even legal proceedings, false allegations etc. these days. They know that even being conventionally successful (six figure job, trophy wife, kids etc.) just means being on a golden leash and just as liable to get cucked and divorceraped or otherwise have your life ruined as any bum lying on the sidewalk.
When no matter what you do, life is just an open-air prison, why even bother?
Nolan Thompson
>This is why "self-improvement" is basically a male-only thing. Self improvement is a male-only thing because only men are expected to "improve" if things don't go their way - or to put it another way, they're the only ones not allowed to address how society is unfair towards them and if they're suffering it's because they just aren't good enough. Meanwhile women are told they can get fat, make no money, and be lazy pieces of shit and they're just as good as a hot Stacy and it's society that needs to change to suit them.
