Do women really enjoy the stuff thats in porn? I could never imagine doing such things to a woman...

Do women really enjoy the stuff thats in porn? I could never imagine doing such things to a woman. Ejaculating on a woman, treating her like she's dirt and the people saying that this is what women enjoy disgusts me so much its unbelievable. Now i worry that if i ever end up in a relationship my gf will be bored with me and will want me to do these things, is this fear justified or is it better than what you see in social media and etc.

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Are those researchers retarded, or something? Yeah no shit your results are going to be skewed by all the people who get no sex at all. 99.99999% of whom will watch porn.

1) Porn is videos of a fantasy. A fantasy for men for the most part because as it turns out: Most visual porn is consumed by men.
Now there's a wide variety in what kind of porn you consume and you don't have to like every single type of porn. Amateur porn is what you'll want to look for.

2) Female fantasies are more abstract then male fantasies.
The thing that incels around here like to bring up is that 50 shades and similar novels are quite popular, even though they often feature quite toxic relationships etc.
The popular conclusion is that females are into being dominated the shit out of which is - as it turns out - wrong. It's wrong because it's a fantasy that doesn't have to make sense.
It doesn't need to be a perfect representation of what you would want in real live - it just needs to be hot, and for many: 50 shades of grey is.

The overwhelming majority of females will appreciate if you treat them with the same respect and affection that you would want yourself.
They are not some aliens. You are more alike than you might think right now.

You should talk with her and ask what she likes.
I'm sure she just wants to be loved by you and nothing more.
She shouldn't be forced to do stuff just to satisfy you.
If she doesn't like performing oral sex on you then she doesn't like it and shouldn't do it.
Porn gives you this false image of treating your partner like an object and that brutal is good

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>Do women really enjoy the stuff thats in porn?
they enjoy pleasing chad, and if the chad fucking them is a coomer they're going to rationalize that they love having coom blasted into their face and eating their own anal creampies.

Yes, common misconception is that women don't like the shit that they do in porn but the truth is that it's the opposite. They want you to be vocal and degrade them and shit, "you like that?" "you like getting fucked?" spanking, choking, etc. Do all that shit. It's hot, she gets off, you get off, everyone's happy.

No, women don't like porn stuff very much. People think they do, because women get bored with routine sex, but truthfully they just want to feel seduced. Men think of sex as it's own unique thing that happens when the woman allows it. The truth is that sex is just the 'orgasm' for the woman. her real sex is in the build up. That is why women prefer erotica over porn, because it lays down a story of a woman being properly seduced.

If your sex life gets boring and you introduce porno ideas, you probably aren't going to end up fixing anything. She'll do something that looks hot just to please you, it will, but it won't please her, even though she'll feel like it should have. Because the problem will be that you talked her into it instead of seduced her into it by treating the relationship like a priority.

The trick is stacked and overnight dates, and a sense of mystery helps.

TL;DR always make a girl feel like she is on her third date, and the two of you will always feel like you're having good sex.

Retard

oregnaly

>The trick is stacked and overnight dates
What does this mean?

I've had sex with 50-60 women, over the span of close to 20 years. Yes, women enjoy degradation, rough sex, and getting manhandled. Many of those women can also enjoy passionate lovemaking.


Rule of thumb, women enjoy being submissive and feeling powerless. Yes, women are depraved, and modern women are by-and-large unsalvageable. They will expect you to slap them around, and if you try to make love to them, caress them, and emotionally connect with them, they will either have a mental breakdown or they will break down ugly-crying.

>wine and dine her, be her entertainer, surprise her, take her on trips, seduce her, spend money on her, treat her like royalty, but also treat her like a whore, and maybe she will put out

>or be extremely attractive and blow her off at all times, unless it's for sex.

Instead of your girlfriend telling her friends you 'went to a movie', you want her to say 'well first we got some lunch, then we saw a movie, then we went to the book store, then we went back to his place'. Again, these things don't have to be expensive. You can start your day with a hike. There are often a lot of festivals, events, little pop up everythings that change week to week that you can take her to that you can use as the basis of your weekly dates, and then expand outward with leisurely things you like to do regularly.

Make staying over at your place a more special experience by getting a unique dessert that also isn't heavy. I use a japanese snack service called bokksu, then when a girl stays over I have something unique like chocolate mango melon candy that is more about savoring a unique flavor together. If you do book store early in the day you can go back to your place, read in the afternoon, then take her out to dinner or to an open mic night or such things.

the point is to just keep her feeling like she is on her 'third date', and she will always want to fuck (and so will you)

>research actually consistently shows!

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I never said or implied etiher of those things. What I specifically suggested is that you use it as a vehicle to do all the things you kind of want to do anyways but just don't want to do alone. Then you flirt with her.

This is what women mean when they say that you act like you're entitled to sex. The idea of literally just spending time together doing nice things together as a couple even if on a budget is somehow this impossible feat. What do you fucking want? to never go outside? Do you not want to go see a movie then go to a book store then read books then have sex? that is a PRICE to you?

buddy, this isn't con manning, I'm just explaining the proper way to frame dating.

In real life I love rough sex, anal, lots of other stuff, but I don't like watching it in porn because it's ugly. The rare occasions I watch porn, it's usually lesbian, even though I'm a straight girl.

The only believable answer

You demonstrate you've never dated women.
At some point you've said everything, done pretty much everything, and just feel relaxed and comfortable. You enjoy the silence, you enjoy engaging with your hobbies and knowing she is sitting next to you. Going out for dinner or drinks all the time becomes a chore. There's only so much you can talk about with a mental midget (read:women), and everything loses its novelty eventually. That's okay. Men enjoy the relaxation and contentment.
Women don't. Women want excitement, novelty, entertainment. They feel entitled to your undivided attention, and they want to be entertained. Eventually, simply going out for drinks, a movie, or dinner is no longer enough. Eventually, going on trips to the beach is no longer enough. Eventually, dinners have to be in michelin restaurants. Eventually, vacations have to be tours in europe. Eventually the "spark" is gone, and she rationalizes post hoc. She promptly proceeds to stop putting out/leaves you, and hops on a dick less than a week later.


How about you actually date women, you generational virgin? Maybe then you might develop a holistic and objective view on the subject matter.

Literally everything is in porn, SOME girl out there likes it. I routinely meet women who want to be degraded and treated like actual trash or objectified, the other end of the spectrum exists as well who would lose their minds if I went to choke them during sex. Taking women as a broad class and porn with all the bullshit they film and asking if "women really like the things in porn" is a stupid question because the answer is typically no but sometimes yes.

>The idea of literally just spending time together doing nice things together as a couple even if on a budget is somehow this impossible feat. What do you fucking want? to never go outside? Do you not want to go see a movie then go to a book store then read books then have sex? that is a PRICE to you?

If there are other men she would fuck without undertaking these other activities first...yeah, that's a price.

For many years, I would have agreed with you. Hell, I *enjoyed* doing things like that. But as I've gotten to know women (and their histories) better, I have come to realize that if this sort of "seduction" is required for *you*, but not for other men, it generally means that she is not actually attracted to you.

If you are watching porn that deviate too much from a healthy sexlife would intial then yeah its bad.
There are ALOT of normal porn with just, missionary, doggy, alot of touching, groping, cumshot, light choking.

Modern day exploited college girls or the early stuff are a prime example of what sex with someone who is really into you should look like.
If you cannot get hard by women being like this, pic related, then IDK man, you are fucked and its your fault. IDK what you did to not be attracted to normal shit.

Maybe you need to find a woman that actually care about you physically and you care about pleasing her so you actually are good at it.

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Every girl I've ever been with has had a porn problem. Though I'm a zoomie and so were they, so it figures
>Yes, I'm over 18 you fucking jannies